Mocktails Or Messy
Mocktails Or Messy
#39 Victoria's Secret Fashion Show Recap + Ghostly Emotional Breakdowns
Ever tried sipping on a Midnight Margarita while pondering life’s little messes? That’s exactly what we got up to in this episode of Mocktails Or Messy, as we spun tales of cocktails mixed with spooky flavors like blood orange and pomegranate juice. We spilled the beans about the reality of our friendship through the ages, alongside hilarious misadventures in organization. And yes, we even dared to tackle the appearance pressures of modern life—Botox, hair extensions, and all—while sharing a hard-learned lesson: haunted places are best left unbothered unless you’re truly ready for their ghostly consequences.
How do you feel about the transformation of the iconic Victoria's Secret Fashion Show? We explored the rise of influencer models like Gigi Hadid, and celebrated the inclusivity brought by plus-size queens like Ashley Graham. The stage was set with electrifying performances from artists like Tyla, and we couldn't help but wonder if the brand is keeping pace with the true allure of its models. Our chat navigated through nostalgia for veteran models, and a critical look at the strategic—or not-so-strategic—choices that sometimes overshadow the runway’s true stars.
Ever considered using red lipstick as blush? We uncovered this beauty hack while recounting our paranormal experience at the Omni William Penn Hotel, where eerie events seemed to amplify our emotions. Tales of a tragic salesman from 1922 and whispers of ghostly altercations added to the mystique of this haunted hotspot. Our personal revelations intermingled with the supernatural, leaving us with an undeniable curiosity about what lingers in the hotel's shadows. So grab your favorite mocktail, settle in, and join us for a laughter-filled, spine-tingling ride through beauty secrets and ghost stories.
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This is Kelly Mazgorski and Ryan Frankofsky and you're listening to Mocktails or Messy.
Speaker 1:Well, this is a show that we love to talk about train wrecks, debauchery. We love to talk about hot topics, sometimes about ourselves, and we love to do it with a cock or a mock in hand.
Speaker 2:Yes, let's go. Mocktails or Messy Kelly, let's go.
Speaker 1:Okay, so today we were having a midnight margarita, fitting for the month of October, and we've got our nifty bartender here.
Speaker 2:I'm your mixologist today and I will definitely be excited to make the midnight margarita. Where did you come up with this?
Speaker 1:I was just Googling stuff and I was like that's interesting. Now this is improvised a lot from the one I saw, so typically you'd have like black salt around the rim, so we're going to do no salt. Yeah, and I have blood orange juice, which I swear I've bought it before and it was more like a deeper color, kind of like more like a purple. Maybe I'm making that up in my head right now, so anyways, it looks pretty good.
Speaker 2:Well, I got some pomegranate.
Speaker 1:They were like, put black food dye in there and I was like I don't like to eat like food dye, so I got some pomegranate juice for color yeah, you did a good job, but it is a strong flavor, so we'll see if it works. And I have limes too, I like do I have the limes. I have them. You know what?
Speaker 2:I'm going to go grab them. I want to just check and make sure. Yeah, I definitely have them. Do you want the glass shaker the official one, or do you want the?
Speaker 1:blender bowl, either or.
Speaker 2:Or the blender bottle.
Speaker 1:Guys, we're so disorganized. We had two. We had like a metal shaker and a glass shaker. We don't know what happened to the metal shaker, it got lost.
Speaker 2:I know we need to be a little bit more organized.
Speaker 1:I don't think it's ever going to happen. We're 33. I know Right, it's just never going to happen, and even behind us right now.
Speaker 2:it just shows the timeline of our childhood friendship.
Speaker 1:Oh my gosh, and it seems like it's an involvement. So we have the first.
Speaker 2:this is our like kind of logo screen right now.
Speaker 1:Yes, this is this one's from 20 years ago.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and then this is from like 10 ish years ago and now we need to do an update.
Speaker 1:You gotta tell me when you when when are we gonna do a little time for an updated?
Speaker 2:uh, yeah we were told that like that's just like so old I'm like guys. That was 13 years ago.
Speaker 1:Yeah, apparently people can recognize you, but they say that they can't recognize me from 20 years ago.
Speaker 2:I know, I feel like you look like so much you kind of. It looks a little bit like Aaron in that photo.
Speaker 1:You're like my sister, yeah, I think that like people are so quick to accuse women of like having something done, and I've had nothing done except for Botox and right now I need a retouch Look, I have like motion back, so like you could call me natural right now. Anyways, I haven't had anything done and, yeah, I think that we just go through puberty and things start to look a little different.
Speaker 2:I know, and I was just thinking to myself like so you don't want to have any emotion. Is that the that seems like to be the key?
Speaker 1:oh no, I need it gone. I need my emotion gone because I'm too emotional. So I, yeah, I need to schedule an appointment, but I, yes, I got my hair extensions out.
Speaker 2:Oh, my god, what do you think are you like? Do you feel naked without them? I did initially hair extensions out. Oh my God, what do you think Are?
Speaker 1:you like. Do you feel naked without them? I did initially and I'm like, oh my gosh, I have no hair. Like why did I get them out? But you know, they were just bothering me. I felt like I wanted to rip them out of my skull.
Speaker 2:So like.
Speaker 1:I'm taking a break Whether I put them back in or not it's anyone's guess.
Speaker 2:It's anyone's guess I might. I did love them, but like I needed a break, yeah, and your hair grew so fast, so like I didn't even realize when you got him taken out.
Speaker 1:I mean you felt it, you noticed it, but I was just like I was so pissed. He came over. We're hanging out and I'm like like flipping my hair, like trying to like I don't know catch my attention put it in his face that like hey, something's different, right? What is with these men? They don't notice. If Catch my attention, put it in his face hey, something's different, right? What is with these men? They don't notice if you get like a haircut or your hair extensions out.
Speaker 2:That's pretty bad. You thought your gay bestie or bi bestie would be able to notice this shit. You thought it was just the straight men, but it's also the bi and the gay guys Exactly.
Speaker 1:So that's why I guess I'm making an announcement now. I guess I'm making an announcement now. Everybody noticed my hair. It's different.
Speaker 2:Well, I do really like the fact that you kind of want to incorporate this midnight margarita with the spooky season.
Speaker 1:We are still in.
Speaker 2:Halloween. It's October. We are trying to enjoy it. We had a little, you know interesting time. What was it? We were recently on site.
Speaker 1:I don't know what to call it.
Speaker 2:We have a lot to unpack on this episode, guys, and I'm excited to talk about it, and the lesson that you will learn about this episode is Would be maybe like don't like fuck around at haunted places, because if you fuck around you find out right. That is so true. Fuck around and find out.
Speaker 1:But I think I still want to fuck around.
Speaker 2:I know you're a little mischievous.
Speaker 1:Today, we do want to talk about the victoria's secret fashion show and we're going to talk about the omni william penn hotel and its hauntings that is located in pittsburgh, pa.
Speaker 2:That's where we are at currently do we want to cheers to our little midnight margarita thank you, kelly, for coming up with the drink this time. You're welcome. You always are good about coming up with some interesting not just Halloween authentic to the seasons.
Speaker 1:It's like you've got to experience all four seasons and I know there's some climates. There's climates that you don't really notice the changes of the seasons with the climate.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Oh wow, that color is not what I was expecting.
Speaker 2:You want to show us all your color.
Speaker 1:This is not the color I was expecting. I guess that's why they used the black food dye. I totally thought the pomegranate juice would like you know what?
Speaker 2:I didn't put so much pomegranate it's still a beautiful fall color oh yeah, it's like a pumpkin spice latte yeah, it's like a pumpkin color.
Speaker 1:So what can we call this?
Speaker 2:because we kind of made it up we are gonna call it something with tequila, so maybe we'll call it a pumpkin putty cat, marg sure, or pumpkin putty cat, I don't know your call. I like pumpkin something because it looks like pumpkin but it doesn't taste like pumpkin, I'm sure I know we cannot like, oh, you can't call it pumpkin if it's not tasting like it you know what it's?
Speaker 1:fall y'all, and at least it's the right color for fall.
Speaker 2:It's not midnight but we didn't follow the recipe. It's fall y'all. Maybe it's called the fall y'all.
Speaker 1:It's called the fall y'all.
Speaker 2:Fall y'all, fall y'all, child, let's go. Okay, oh my God, that's really good.
Speaker 1:It is good.
Speaker 2:My mocktail is very tequila forward.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and forward.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's pretty. It's kind of tart, probably from the pomegranate juice, maybe even the orange, but it's tart and uh, if you like tart things, just be right up your alley. I really love this. Now, shout out to our mocktail. Today we got free spirits, the spirit of tequila, non-alcoholic, use this, then you. You know, when I read about the evils of drinking, I gave it up. Read reading. That is henny youngman, that's just like a quote. So, nutritional facts 10 calories per serving size. So that's 1.5 fluid ounce, which is, you know, about roughly the the shot. Do you want to do a shot together?
Speaker 1:oh, not really.
Speaker 2:No, I don't do shots, okay I'm to do a shot together, not really. No, I don't do shots.
Speaker 1:Okay, I'm going to do a shot by myself, Okay cheers, it's good. Damn. It looks like a nice color, so I did choose mine, because it has a little skull on it.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:So this is a tequila with alcohol. It's called Tequila Exotico, I think. I've heard of it before, never had it. But cute seasonal has a skull.
Speaker 2:It's all about Halloween with that bottle.
Speaker 1:I don't think it's technically seasonal but it's seasonal for me because it has the skull. I'm all about pictures.
Speaker 2:Blanco, tequila, exotica, love it. So that's your messy, that's your cocktail. Yes, and Free Spirits. Tequila, the spirit of tequila. It's not a tequila, it's basically a tequila alternative. It's really flavorful. It has, like the Mexican agave, it got an American oat. So, like I definitely recommend this, I think this is my favorite tequila alternative.
Speaker 1:Good, I'm glad. So we're going to use it.
Speaker 2:We're going to use it more often.
Speaker 1:That's really fun. Okay, so we would love to talk about the Victoria's Secret fashion show. So did you even know that?
Speaker 2:the fashion show was happening. Ryan, december is always how it is, and now this is the first time I've ever heard it being in October.
Speaker 1:I'm so confused. It was discontinued 2019. They discontinued it due to lack of diversity and plummeting ratings.
Speaker 2:Why? Well, that's just what you just said, I mean truly, it was not very diverse. Right.
Speaker 1:And I think people were just like over it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they were just throwing in like eh yeah, like you boycott it.
Speaker 1:You boycott things that just aren't suiting you Right. So I didn't really know it was going to ever come back.
Speaker 2:All right, Cause it's like damn it's.
Speaker 1:it hasn't happened since 2019.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's a long ass time ago.
Speaker 1:Right and like maybe I live under a rock, but I didn't know it was happening this year.
Speaker 2:I had no clue. Please, like somebody, let me know. How were you supposed to find out? Were you just like? Was it advertised? I feel like they did it so under the radar.
Speaker 1:I know. So I saw like on posts on Instagram and I'm like what? So I had to go back and watch it like after the fact.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Totally would have watched it real time, gigi fact yeah, totally would have watched it real time, um gg gg hadid.
Speaker 1:She was the opening model. She looked beautiful. I think that's very well deserved, isn't she like the most popular?
Speaker 2:I think she's the highest paid female model right now.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and isn't she like an influencer too?
Speaker 2:basically like well, yeah, you know what they said. Like whenever it was happening, like first, like that kendall jenner and gg hadid were making a big like, big on the scene with the victoria secret fashion shows. They called them the influencer models so they weren't like the og original victoria's secret models and these new girls come into play and they're like, who are they?
Speaker 2:and, to be honest with you, I never really thought of kendall jenner ever becoming a victoria's secret model. Right like. She looks like a high fashion model in my opinion, but I never looked at her as like. But she looked like she fits the part and it's like they're very much more inclusive with all different types of individuals from ashley graham who is like one of the most stunning plus size.
Speaker 1:Oh my god she crushed it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, she did. She was not showing, she was like showing it all.
Speaker 1:I'm pretty pleased with how things went.
Speaker 2:Um, not Tyla am I saying it right? Tyla her performance.
Speaker 1:I mean her body is that how it goes.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't know the lyrics and I'm like dang, she should have been walking on the runway, but technically she was because she was singing up there, I know, don't you love how they make those artists like highlight, like, as, like I remember Taylor Swift did it years ago and she looked just as sexy as some of these victoria's secret fashion models?
Speaker 1:I believe david mcknight did it like back in the day and that was so sexy, like him singing his songs, like with the models walking yeah, the performances are always now. I know that, like people were complaining about the color palette, so basically, let me explain.
Speaker 1:Like color palette, so your personal coloring is due to your skin tone, your eyes, the color of your eyes and the color of your hair and gold tones. They're best suited for warm-toned skin and silver tones or more suited for lighter skin. And then, if you want to go more into it, there's like four other color palettes Spring, summer, autumn and winter. Summer represents a palette with soft, cool colors like pastels and muted tones, and winter is more like vivid and higher contrast and darker shades. Higher contrast and darker shades. Do you think the color palette could have been improved upon with these models?
Speaker 2:Some of it didn't match up to them and their skin tones. Honestly, I think I'm constantly just looking at their faces, their boobs, their butt, their body, their legs, their shimmer. It's tough to even notice. I don't even notice the color palette as a guy. I'm looking at body, oddy, oddy, and their face is just like they're so smiling and they're giving that smize, that look, and just the legs with the shimmer and the tan. I really never noticed that color palette. But when you brought it to my attention I was like, okay, I get it. Like there were some moments where I was like okay, so maybe, when it comes down to it, yes, you should alter it, but it's more of like a commercial, wow, like advertisement for victoria's secret that that's, and that was such a good point that you just made.
Speaker 1:Like they didn't create these color palettes for these models, they chose models to wear their clothing that you just made. Like they didn't create these color palettes for these models, they chose models to wear their clothing that they created. So, like what? What are we gonna do?
Speaker 2:yeah, like, I get what you're saying. Like, even when we talked to fernando j garcia, oscar de larenta, designer, he said whatever somebody feels their best in is the best design for them. Now, this was something different. This is something to showcase the actual product which is Victoria's Secret. So I think, in some ways, if it is the best color palette for that specific model, that would be advertising her over the product, because the product has to be the show, the showcase, focal point, right, if I'm thinking from like a marketing product it's like people are just up in arms about things.
Speaker 1:But it's like, if you think, logically you're completely right.
Speaker 2:So I think you have a really great point there, ryan I just dissected that right now in my head I love it, I don't know if I'm accurate or on the money, but like I agree, Like there was one that you showed that Gigi Hadid which was like much more pink.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like a light pink on, but it was like, oh, she would look better and I'm like a more mauve or a coral. Yeah.
Speaker 2:So I think the coral would fit her better, right.
Speaker 1:But the pink was like a signature victoria's secret. Yeah, love it. That is such a great point, ryan. Now some people are saying that the veterans were done dirty, like adriana, lima and candace um candace had like dinky wings on.
Speaker 2:They just said like victoria's secret, whereas, like gg, hadid.
Speaker 1:She comes out, you know, on the runway and she's like struggling for her life because her wings are so heavy, right and huge. And um, you know, they had these slicked back ponies, they didn't candace, and um adriana, and they didn't have like the signature bouncy, flouncy blowout, that like victory secret models are known for, so it's like were they done dirty. And then tyra tyra. She was so covered up and I'm not sure if that was her choosing or but it's like rock the curves girl like ashley graham, she rocked it like I was like drooling.
Speaker 2:She really did.
Speaker 1:She was so stunning and um, I mean she had just more of like a casual style, like with her hair and stuff it wasn't like as um polished, as victoria's secret models normally look like in the fashion show.
Speaker 2:It's like they basically just did nothing with her hair now, do you and I asked you this before, but just to re-emphasize do you think that the younger instagram model, gg, hadid the other younger new generation models? I what you said. They just had like shorter cuts. Was it understated as well?
Speaker 1:um, some of them were like I. I would say, if we're looking at diversity, there was a lot of diversity in the hair department. I'm just not sure why the OG models didn't have that like OG look, but maybe that's just what I was hoping to see.
Speaker 2:Right and maybe people like to see other things, things so well, I guess, like kind of the same way with when you think about some of these celebrities. Like they have these gorgeous dresses on and sometimes they want like a very plain hair, like just like a very like whatever, like slick it back to showcase like the dress and maybe to make it look like understated. So maybe that was their, but you're right like if they just have a slick back pony, that wasn't doing anything for anyone. For, like you would expect them to be a little bit more glamorous.
Speaker 1:I don't know, adriana, adriana, lima and candace. I think you say like swanpool, I don't know if I'm saying that, right they're like both one of my.
Speaker 2:They're like my favorite. I know they are just so.
Speaker 1:Their bodies are just insane. I know. So I think Adriana is like 43. What, yeah? And Candace is 36.
Speaker 2:Oh wow, she's still pretty young.
Speaker 1:And they haven't like, they haven't aged a bit, I know.
Speaker 2:Candace and her husband. Like Jason the actor, they just give me all the right feels.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:They're so hot.
Speaker 1:Now I do want to try one thing. So Rosemary Swift. So she's a former makeup artist for Victoria's. Secret, and she suggests and this is what she did with the models was that you use red blush or red lipstick on your face and it gives a more natural sexy look. So I'm going to try it right now. Red blush, yeah, or you can even use red lipstick. So I don't have any red blush. I have this red lipstick that I never used before because I was just thinking red.
Speaker 2:Yeah, really, I'm gonna try it right now. Okay, so you're pulling out a red lipstick, yeah so I have a red lipstick right here it is. Oh my god, that is fucking red dude.
Speaker 1:Yeah 714 mega matte lipstick and it's urban decay oh god I need a little mirror for myself, so do you want me to hold it?
Speaker 2:bear with me, I'm just gonna I can hold it for you, yeah I'm just gonna try this.
Speaker 1:You just hold it, just like that um yeah. So basically you take it and you just kind of put it in here Wait should we do a video of this, of you doing it?
Speaker 2:I'm going to do a video real quick.
Speaker 1:Okay, yeah, then we can zoom in. Okay. So I already put the red on.
Speaker 2:Do you want to just do it real quick again, like just pretend like you just applied it again, just to showcase it?
Speaker 1:yeah, just well, I don't want to like, yeah, so I just put the red lipstick on to my cheeks and so now I'm going to blend it in, okay I cannot believe she's doing this this is crazy okay actually.
Speaker 2:Oh my god.
Speaker 1:So I'm kind of seeing what they're talking about and sexy.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Okay, so I'm fair skin. So I was like, oh my God, this is me too much.
Speaker 2:Well, it's kind of funny because, like, I do actually now understand, because pink does look a little fake.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:Right, because nobody's actually pink.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:You see it.
Speaker 1:It's a little scary to do because it's like I think, because I'm using like lipstick, it just like takes a little bit longer. No, you did a good job To blend, but I think it does look good.
Speaker 2:Oh my God. Yeah, I'm really into it. So, okay, that's pretty impressive. So this is something that they came up like. It's like a new concept.
Speaker 1:No, it is like an old concept.
Speaker 2:yeah, I'm really confused now.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Like I didn't know, lipstick could be like it's like a Victoria's Secret hack.
Speaker 1:It's from the old times.
Speaker 2:Like they probably didn't tell people because, like, like, they used this on the models and, yeah, they wanted to make it a little exclusive, yeah, but it actually does look. Uh, yeah, I'm not gonna lie like I totally get what they're saying, because pink I saw on somebody recently and it looked like a little like what are the girls like? The little tiny girls that wear the makeup, like the pageant, little girls.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like a toddler in tiara, yeah a toddler in tiara.
Speaker 2:I remember seeing this beautiful 70-some-year-old woman and she had really pink blush and it looked ridiculous and I thought of the toddlers in tiara. I'm like you kind of look like Okay, so do the red, do red guys?
Speaker 1:Yes, Okay, the toddlers in tiara. I'm like you kind of look like okay, so do the red.
Speaker 2:Do you read, guys okay?
Speaker 1:now next, um, I would like to just give a little opening. So, we did explore the omni william penn hotel um a little creepy.
Speaker 2:It's hailed one of the most haunted places in pittsburgh uh-huh and um and there's william omni pens all throughout the United States, but the one in Pittsburgh seems to be having some like ghost spirits.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so we actually are going to link some like our experience here.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'll say did not go as well as I like.
Speaker 1:I mean, have a look for yourself. We are here at the Omni William Penn Hotel and we're trying to get the paranormal investigation guy on the phone. Corey, he's not picking up right now. It's okay, we are inside the Omni William Penn Hotel. We decided to get a little beverage. Ryan got his non-alcoholic Heineken and I have my Cabernet Sauvignon and we are enjoying the ambiance here. Initially, my cabernet sauvignon and we are enjoying the ambiance here. Initially, like there is a little bit of a dark feeling in here. I'm feeling like, you know, tingles. What about?
Speaker 2:you, ryan. I think it's kind of a little surreal. You know, we feel like we're going back in time yeah, I mean yes you're here for tea. Are you here for tea?
Speaker 1:I am not here for tea. We can move. I didn't know.
Speaker 2:Yeah, this whole other area up there.
Speaker 1:Oh, okay, oh okay.
Speaker 2:I guess we have to get tea or we're going to get kicked out.
Speaker 1:Let's go ahead and go up there.
Speaker 2:You know we talked about this. You do believe in ghosts. I do, I believe and then you said I'm a little bit skeptical about the ghost thing. Now I will say I have not eaten all day so I don't know if this is a good idea right now, but I feel like, even like this rush is like through us, going through this like hard time and like work and everything, I feel like there's something in here that I can't even describe it like. Do you feel I can feel what's?
Speaker 1:something in here that I can't even describe it Like. Do you feel I can feel what's?
Speaker 2:happened in this building, Kelly. Something's going on in here today.
Speaker 1:I think that they don't want us to record but I've never seen you like this. You're like breaking down for no reason.
Speaker 2:I'm overwhelmed and like I feel so stupid, like leaving LA and not really have like any career set up for myself at 33 and I'm like starting over again and I just don't want to live like a fucking kid living at my parents it's not easy, but they're so generous and they don't make me feel bad about it. Like I feel very blessed because I've been given this opportunity to like work at the real estate firm, but like I still want to make what we're creating happen. And it's overwhelming at times and I know that you have kids. I know that it's like I even think's, like I even think like dealing with like family now, like it's just new people in my life that I'm not really accustomed to and I'm losing like certain people and I lost a relationship. So I'm just trying to adjust and it's it's hard.
Speaker 1:I think that I appreciate you being so vulnerable with me right here. I think, what's weird that all these feelings are stirring up in the Omni William.
Speaker 2:Penn.
Speaker 1:Hotel. It's very bizarre Because we said we kind of felt something, but this is real, guys. This isn't what we expected to happen today Something's going on in here.
Speaker 2:And I don't normally do this in front of you. You nor would I be comfortable with a camera in my face.
Speaker 1:I've never seen you do this before and, um, I guess, like it is kind of fucked up that I'm recording this. I wanted to show that like this is out of character for him. Ryan's not handling the energy well, so we're gonna have to call it here. We're gonna have to leave, because he does have a professional meeting after this and we can't have him being a mess. This is really strange. I've actually never seen him break down like this before I'm just overwhelmed, kelly.
Speaker 2:I think it's just like something's in this hotel that I can't really describe. I feel like emotional and I don't want to like break down, especially for before this meeting at 3 30.
Speaker 1:We might come back um in a few days or something, but we're gonna have to call it for today that was uncomfortable.
Speaker 2:I mean, I never really broke down like that in front of you really I've never seen you like that yeah, I don't know if I put on a strong front for you. I don't know who I've broken down to like that, but then I think it was also I did mention to you. Correct me if I'm wrong. It was something about feeling like grandma nancy was like yeah, and I'm like what are you talking about?
Speaker 1:like grandma nancy's, not here like this is the ghosts of omni william pendo hotel.
Speaker 2:But then you got a message from one of your relatives yeah, I got a message from Grandma Nancy's daughter, my aunt, aunt Nancy, and she mentioned to me we went to the William Omni Pen when I was two years old with Grandma Nancy and she stated that it was an Easter brunch at the William Omni Pen Hotel. They had a petting zoo. I think we have some pictures. I'm going to look them up. I'm pretty sure grandma was there holding you and your mom probably remembers and it was just kind of that like experience, like I was two and I don't know if, like I like was crying and like they couldn't shut me up because I was such a colicky baby or whatever.
Speaker 1:I don't know. Well, I don't think anything's changed. We still can't, we still can't shut you up.
Speaker 2:I mean, now I feel like it's coming out more and more. I don't know what it is, maybe it's just, like you know, being emotional. I mean you'll see why I was emotional. I was just breaking down like changing life. Life like money, like work, like friendships.
Speaker 1:You just had a total meltdown in there and it was a little scary yeah.
Speaker 2:And you tried to like capitalize on my emotions by filming it.
Speaker 1:Well, you know what? I had a babysitter to watch the kids and I wasn't there to fuck around, right?
Speaker 2:Fuck around and find out, right, that's what happened to you that day, so unfortunately we did go there to film, so that's what I did. Yeah, and I do apologize. No, I'm just messing with you. I think, if anything, I remember when we were doing another episode in the beginning and you were like you're going to break down. I have a feeling, like you have to show your emotion on this, like whole thing that you're experiencing with the breakup, and I just couldn't once the cameras were like I know couldn't, I couldn't shed a tear.
Speaker 2:I remember, yeah. So something changed. I think it was being on site feeling grandma. Nancy, you know that was a hard day for me too, because we were running into some like scheduling issues and I'm just trying to do it all and it's just not easy to do it all.
Speaker 1:It all came out and I know my mom works with somebody that used to work at the Omni William Penn Hotel for 35 years and she said that this woman saw ghosts multiple times within the 35 years.
Speaker 1:She said the craziest one was she's waiting in line for the elevator and there was another like co-worker with her. They got onto the elevator and there was there was a woman, you know, waiting with them. Ok, she got on and then they got on behind her and the door closed and the woman was not there and they both kind of like looked at each other, like did, were we seeing things? And they both like noticed the same thing happened that the woman got on the elevator and then wasn't there after the door closed oh my god so that is, that is a story that just gave me the chills.
Speaker 1:I know I got the chills saying it but um, I mean in 1922 um a traveling salesman like tragically ended his life. He shot himself in the hotel and that was on the 23rd floor and he shot himself because he was dealing with threats of like shady business stealing oh, he was getting threats. Yeah, he couldn't handle the pressure anymore. He just ended it himself, okay.
Speaker 2:And then another documented one and there's more than just these two that I'm talking about those two floors, the 23rd, and is it the 24th? The 23rd and the 24th, I believe they're closed. They're closed.
Speaker 1:It's for storage it could be the 22nd and 23rd, I don't know, it's whatever one is around the 23rd, but um, and then in the seventies there were two cooks. They had an argument, an altercation, and one of the cooks shot the other cook. So people claim that they can hear two men arguing at night and then apparently I don't know, like this one I didn't see online, but I heard this from someone that some woman like killed her fiance and like put him in the closet like in the hotel room.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it sounds like a pun on like shoving him back in the closet.
Speaker 1:I don't know. I don't know, guys, but the Omni William Penn Hotel definitely um has some goes, has some vibes, yeah yeah, we gotta get a room there soon. Yes, we do Totally. Stay tuned, we're gonna be back, we like the creepy, spooky season.
Speaker 2:We're both a little dark and twisted. With, you know, the Halloween. This is our time of year that we thrive in Exactly.
Speaker 1:This is.
Speaker 2:Kelly Mazgorski and Ryan Frankofsky, and you're listening to. Mocktails are Messy. Oh my God, I like that.
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