Mocktails Or Messy
Mocktails Or Messy
#33: Designer, New Money, Dance Moms
What happens when a fearless mom with a glittery sport bike and a wardrobe to die for meets the world of Mocktails? Meet Katie, our fabulous guest on this episode of "Mocktails Or Messy," as she shares her unapologetically bold take on life, motherhood, and fashion. From her open and supportive relationship with her teenage daughter Kira to cheering on her football-loving son Jameson, Katie's candidness about the ups and downs of parenting is both refreshing and inspiring.
In a heartfelt recount of career transformations, we'll follow her Husband's journey from FedEx sales to a thriving real estate career, supported unwaveringly by his family. Plus, we peek inside the emotional rollercoaster of working in a pediatric transplant unit and the fierce world of Dance Moms competitions through the experiences of her daughters. This episode underscores the importance of nurturing children's passions, the emotional toll of career changes, and the resilience required to face life's challenges head-on.
Finally, dive into family dynamics and the transformative power of relationships. Katie opens up about breaking generational curses through open communication with her kids, her estranged relationship with her parents, and the humorous chaos of neighborhood politics, complete with fireworks disputes and epic parties. We wrap up with a mix of laughter, wisdom, and a few memorable stories, including a stolen wallet saga at the dirty bird "Giant Eagle" grocery store and the importance of setting boundaries in friendships. Join us for an episode brimming with authenticity, humor, and a celebration of life's Messy yet beautiful moments.
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I had a super cute motorcycle. Yeah, it was a white like sport bike with like glitter. It was so cute. I had a pink helmet, of course, and like the cutest pink jacket.
Speaker 2:I think the thing that I love about you is you kind of encourage us to just be yourself, be your star, like let it shine.
Speaker 1:You don't have to like humble yourself in curses that's like huge and I know a lot of people like think that that's like bullshit, but it's not my 14 year old, can talk to me about things that I could never speak to my mom about we're gonna have to come over and see the cows they live right under, like a 5g cell phone tower, so I probably wouldn't eat their meat oh yeah, that's kind of weird.
Speaker 3:That might be problematic yeah I've stared at those before and it made me like dizzy, like just looking at the tower.
Speaker 1:If you're close enough. It's not close to me. It's definitely hard as you get older to like see those things, because when you're younger it's just kind of like. You're like, oh, it's fine, it's fine it's fine until it's not, and you're just like what the fuck am I doing?
Speaker 2:Yeah, like.
Speaker 1:I only have maybe 40 more good years on this earth. I'm waste them fucking with you.
Speaker 2:What's your quote? What's?
Speaker 1:your mantra I don't care what other people think about me.
Speaker 2:Is that why you're unfiltered? I think, so yeah, how is that with the mom community?
Speaker 1:It's 50-50.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:A lot of people either really like me or they really don't.
Speaker 2:And you don't care if they don't.
Speaker 1:No, and there are not that many interesting people in this world. So if you have something interesting, you better share it with somebody.
Speaker 3:Fuck yes, Katie preach. This is Kelly Misgorski.
Speaker 2:And Ryan Frankofsky You're listening to? Mocktails are messy.
Speaker 3:We are having a party. We have a special guest, one of my favorite people, the big sister that I never had here. She is Katie. What's going on, katie? I'm so excited to be here with you guys.
Speaker 2:You look fabulous per usual. What are these shoes? A Valentino, of course. She got the good shit Always. Always the shoes yeah and the dress is fabulous.
Speaker 1:Listen, you know about this boutique. This is the super cute Salt Boutique. You bought stuff from here before. Oh, that's salt.
Speaker 3:Yes, do they have one here now.
Speaker 1:Yes, she just opened in Cannonsburg. Okay, check it out. Yeah, cannonsburg, it's a little bit over the river from me so I'm kind of like you shop online comes the next day. I was like I don't think this bitch is going to Cannonsburg.
Speaker 2:No, I want to go Kelly's amazing.
Speaker 1:She has amazing stuff and I mean you've bought from there. Yeah, everything's so cute. So, yeah, she's open, so go check her out for sure?
Speaker 2:Well, I got to talk about this designer.
Speaker 1:She is Pittsburgh's top designer, katie McKenna. You got to hire her.
Speaker 2:Thank you, thank you, thank you thank you for trying to get me involved with your company. I know right, they shot me down. They're like, sorry, you just don't make the cut, like you're too much of a yinzer, you're not a yinzer.
Speaker 1:You were brought up, though. I told you about it. You were brought up. You were found on LinkedIn with the shirtless, with the whole thing and the V, and everyone at the staff meeting was like, hey, this person interviewed. And I was like, listen, ladies, I tried, I tried to get him here.
Speaker 2:Now, what do you think whenever you see somebody that's like that douchey? Do you think that they're like, oh okay, they're just really obsessed with themselves. Or is it like, oh wow, they just like to show off like a little bit of skin?
Speaker 1:I mean, if I looked like that, I would never have my top on, I would just be naked all the time. Well, I was gonna say I love this little zip zip. Can you like show us what's going on under there? I mean, you don't want to see what's going on under there?
Speaker 2:This is the mom boobs, mother of three. Tell us a little bit about that. You seem like you're like kind of a cool mom.
Speaker 1:My 14 year old would not say I'm a cool mom. Oh my God.
Speaker 2:She's a 14-year-old. Kira is not a fan of me right now.
Speaker 1:I come down like one, you know like the cute, like jumpers or whatever, and she's like you're so embarrassing, Like are you leaving the house like that, and I'm like, oh my God, Like you're so annoying.
Speaker 2:Oh my God, she's not a fan of me right now.
Speaker 1:Jameson loves me to death. He always will.
Speaker 2:Jameson the boy.
Speaker 1:He's my middle.
Speaker 2:He's 12.
Speaker 1:Total football. Like loves football. Like Jameson McKenna is the best quarterback name. Yeah. So we're really hoping for him to get there and Matt is coaching football.
Speaker 2:And Matt is the hobby, one of the best realtors, and did you train them or did he get?
Speaker 1:Absolutely. It's a family thing.
Speaker 2:So, he's.
Speaker 1:He's loved real estate since mama and granddaddy did real estate. I mean he's loved it ever since then. He wanted to get into real estate and he we had like a huge conversation. It was right whenever Kira was born, so my oldest and I was still working at children's cause. I have I used to work in healthcare.
Speaker 2:I used to work at children. That's so impressive. You were a nurse.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so I worked in the pediatric transplant unit so I got to do everything for, like, living donors and things like that for kids. So it was pretty awesome. But once I had Kira I was like I just can't really do this anymore. It's really sad.
Speaker 3:You see, like a lot of sad stuff.
Speaker 1:So it wasn't like I take a lot of things home with me. I'm not like I can't just like drop them off at the door type of person. So right at that point Matt was like I really want to like quit my job, like my full-time job.
Speaker 2:And what was he doing?
Speaker 1:He was doing outside sales at like FedEx.
Speaker 3:So we had like a good job, oh yeah.
Speaker 1:FedEx yeah, like great benefits, like the whole thing. He was like I want to quit my job and just start a commission-only job. And I was like, oh my God, like we just had a baby, like I'm not sure what you're talking about, like what do you want to do? And I was like, okay, like I'll trust you whatever you want to do. And he had like I mean, he grew so fast and just worked so hard and built this huge brand for himself, so he did awesome, so it was definitely worth the leap.
Speaker 2:Yeah, did you kind of motivate him to like really push?
Speaker 1:Well, I like really expensive things.
Speaker 2:Clearly. Look at her. She's showing up with her Louis or Valentino.
Speaker 1:I was like you know, he knows his area.
Speaker 2:Oh for sure, that's why he acquired you.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm pretty high maintenance.
Speaker 2:Is that why Kelly is the way she is? Is it because of you?
Speaker 3:I think that we're just similar yeah. And that's why we hit it off. You are like a dance mom too.
Speaker 1:Oh, our dance studio is very, very cutthroat and I will say that I'm it's, it's already like yes, there are some. If you think I'm crazy, there's like really crazy do you make fun of them? Um, I don't really make fun of them. I just feel like it's just so hard the whole thing. So my 14 year old, she competitively dances, she likes to dance, for the social aspect of it she's not like a star.
Speaker 2:She is so cute.
Speaker 1:But your youngest is a star. She's super. Yes, Callie's really really good to dance.
Speaker 2:I can't remember the one that's like, totally like she's posing for the camera.
Speaker 3:It's Callie she is so fucking cute. She's like acrobatic stuff. Yeah, she's an animal.
Speaker 1:It's pretty impressive the whole dance world I will say is insane. We're super lucky we belong to, I think, the best studio in Pittsburgh, for sure. Yeah, I mean the way that they teach it's Studio 19 Dance Complex. Amazing, they were on Dance Moms.
Speaker 3:I don't know if you've ever seen it. They were actually on Dance Moms, so if you want to check them out, yes, but I mean literally the best.
Speaker 1:The teachers are just the best in the business. They push these kids and know exactly. You know what their strengths are. Um, I mean callie's just phenomenal, so she loves it.
Speaker 3:We're starting a new season. She started her new solo a couple days ago.
Speaker 1:She's doing this like adorable cinderella solo, so she's like super excited about it. Yeah now.
Speaker 2:Do you push her to be so competitive?
Speaker 1:I do, I do, which is not one of my best traits. Oh, you want the best? Yeah, I never knew I was as competitive as I was until I got into the dance world. I will say that Now, did you do dance when you were a kid? I mean, I did. Actually, the owner of our studio now was the owner of the studio that I danced at and she looks exactly the same. She's so beautiful and gorgeous. She hasn't aged a single day. I was like, whatever you're doing, please let me have it Dancers age well.
Speaker 3:She's amazing.
Speaker 1:But I used to dance for her, but I was never in it. In it I never could do acro, I was never kind of like. I was just kind of like Did you do it at? No? No, it was just kind of like I did some shaking and then that was it. Nothing like how these kids are doing I mean Callie's a dance like three nights a week multiple hours a night and she's so like obsessed with it. It's really something to see.
Speaker 2:Oh, my God.
Speaker 1:She's awesome.
Speaker 2:Makes me want to like have kids and just like be that competitive dad that's like you're going to get first. You're going to get gold. You're going to get first. You're going to get gold.
Speaker 1:You're going to go for the Olympics or something, but the thing is like they're super hard on themselves, like Callie is super hard on herself, like and they have all these little friends and like if their friend wins and then they don't win, it's a. It's a really good life lesson.
Speaker 1:I will say like it's impressive at her age how disciplined she is, and I and like you're never, you're not going to win all the time, like that's not how the world works. It's really good to be able to like stand back and be like listen, there's going to be people better than you in your entire life. So like I'm sorry that you didn't like kill it this time, but like next time is it better. You know they don't understand, but it's like, it's like good for them, so it pushes them and makes them work harder.
Speaker 2:Now do you kind of have a messy past. Is that why you didn't get into competitive dancing? Because, you were just a booze hound.
Speaker 1:I'm sorry that was a little like yeah, I actually didn't start drinking until I was like older. I was in kind of a relationship that wasn't so great before I met Matt, just not a good fit, not like physical. Not like awful, but like just not good. I could never drink around that situation because you never knew, like what was going on.
Speaker 3:You were in like fight or flight mode.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I was like a control freak.
Speaker 3:Right, like more, like I had to be aware of my surroundings like what was going to happen.
Speaker 1:So like I actually never I didn't drink until after I, like broke up with him. So, we had lived together. We had, like a house together, a whole nine yards, uh-huh. So we had lived together.
Speaker 2:We had like a house together a whole nine yards. Oh my God, you bought a house, yeah.
Speaker 1:Wow. And then just one day I decided I was like I'm not going to do this anymore. Thank God I was like I'm just, I'm out. How did you meet Matt this is funny the girl who introduced us. I could care less if she, like, just dies into the night.
Speaker 2:Oh shit, I literally say that.
Speaker 1:The real Katie comes out Literally the only reason why she's alive is for us to meet.
Speaker 2:I know that's terrible to say no, no, no, I mean, was she into Maddie?
Speaker 1:No, well, you never know.
Speaker 2:Ulterior motive. Sometimes I never really know.
Speaker 1:We actually ended up living together for a while.
Speaker 2:The three of you no. Not Matt, you and this girl. Yeah, the three of you no.
Speaker 1:Oh, okay, you and this girl, yeah, so we ended up.
Speaker 2:Living together for a while. Can we say her name?
Speaker 1:No, let's not.
Speaker 2:We ended up living together For a while and ended up really messy.
Speaker 1:Like really messy at the end. Not drunk, messy no just like a lot Of jealousy issues and just not.
Speaker 2:Yeah, not good. I mean, I could see why some bitch would be jealous.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's why I had my motorcycle.
Speaker 3:Oh shit, that's one of the first things I remember about you is that you had a motorcycle that is pretty badass.
Speaker 1:Can you see her on a? Motorcycle Because you're like so girly, I had a super cute motorcycle.
Speaker 3:Oh really.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it was a white like sport bike with like white and like glitter. It was so cute. I had a pink helmet, of course and like the cutest pink jacket.
Speaker 2:So what made you want that that's so impressive?
Speaker 1:I just loved it. I'm a very adventurous person.
Speaker 3:You must have got hit on all the time I did.
Speaker 2:You don't see a girl on a motorcycle A white bike with a pink helmet.
Speaker 1:Between the time that I broke up with my ex and the time I was with Matt I had a really, really fun time Because I had never really had that. I went in from like relationships to relationships and never like was like single how long was that time period? It wasn't super long, to be honest, because I, you know, like a super gushy story, but I met Matt because Matt was helping the girl that I was living with like move her furniture in because they were close friends.
Speaker 1:I literally saw him the first time with like yes, move his, her furniture. And because they were, they were close friends okay I literally saw him the first time. Like the first time I saw him and I was like I'm gonna marry him and he was like what the fuck are you talking about? Like you, you never, you don't even, you've never even talked to him and I was like you knew him I just like loved him, I don't know, but we didn't even have like conversation. It was super weird.
Speaker 2:He's got that, I could see why people trust him. With business Matt's the most awkward person on the planet.
Speaker 1:That is not true, I don't know. He did not have game. He didn't have game, uh-uh.
Speaker 2:So with me I felt like, oh, dude, he is such a good dude.
Speaker 1:I look to him. Yeah, like you wouldn't guess that he's awkward. He's not awkward because of me, oh so you you like I've changed him to.
Speaker 2:Oh, you altered him so you saw him as like hey, he's a good, cute little project. I'm gonna like bring him up to speed with the katie expectation with the style and, oh my god fuck.
Speaker 1:Yes, if you go back and see like what matt looked like and like acted like before me, it would. It was like you'd be like I don't know.
Speaker 2:Well, I think the thing that I love about you is you kind of encourage us truly. From that party that you hosted for Matt, you really encouraged me I don't know if she could say the same To just be yourself, be your star, let it shine. You don't have to humble yourself in a way that you want to dim your light.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I tell my kids that all the. I think that's super important. You only get one life.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And there are not that many interesting people in this world. So if you have something interesting, you better share it with somebody. Fuck. Yes, Katie preach.
Speaker 2:You know I love you for saying that, because I think sometimes I've been around like a lot of people that are maybe insecure and I always felt like, okay, I got to just like dim it down a little bit to make them feel comfortable. Never, okay, I gotta just dim it down a little bit to make them feel comfortable Never.
Speaker 3:Fuck, no, hell. No, I like this message.
Speaker 2:Yes, it's not like being cocky cocky, it's being maybe a little smidge cocky, but more confident. Yeah, and then where do you get that from? From your parents?
Speaker 1:I actually don't have a relationship with my parents at all.
Speaker 2:Which I find very interesting, because you seem like such a family woman, yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I haven't talked to my family in a long time actually.
Speaker 2:But you're really good at setting boundaries.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that is true. Like I have dealt with a lot of like childhood trauma and things like that, I've healed myself from a lot of things yeah, which is like huge for me.
Speaker 3:Do you talk to your sister? I do occasionally talk to my sisters.
Speaker 1:Oh, I didn't know you had more than one. I have two.
Speaker 3:Okay, I just remembered the one that painted like the butterfly stuff for your wedding.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I don't. I actually talked to her. She actually got married, okay, and she invited me to the wedding, maybe like a day or two before, so I couldn't go, unfortunately.
Speaker 2:Maybe she should have invited you a little further in advance. Yeah, I think it was more of like a.
Speaker 1:It was like a quicker thing.
Speaker 2:Oh, yeah, yeah, which is fine, which is fine, I'm not going to let it go.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, which is fine.
Speaker 2:Oh baby pregnant? No, she's not pregnant.
Speaker 1:I wish someone would get pregnant.
Speaker 2:I know, Because you know me.
Speaker 1:I love a baby, right?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I want definitely harder as you get older not to like have a mom Because you seem tough.
Speaker 1:I am, and I think it's because of that, right, but if anything, it's just like I'm a big supporter of like breaking your childhood, like your generational curses.
Speaker 1:And I think that's like huge and I know a lot of people like think that that's like bullshit, but it's not, no, and so for me, like me being able to give all to my kids and make sure that they understand that, like we have a mutual respect between us, like my 14 year old can talk to me about things that I could never speak to my mom about or ever feel comfortable talking to her about. And that's like huge for me, yeah, and huge for her.
Speaker 2:So I think that, like she's probably so much more advanced than a lot of her peers.
Speaker 1:Yeah, she's able to like come to me and talk to me, which is like that's all I've ever wanted as a mom was to have that type of relationship and like I have it, so I'm just like super grateful for everything I've been through. You know, even though it sucks, like it still teaches you things, so I think that's like huge I can tell how grateful you are and I can see how well you treat your kids.
Speaker 3:I mean, you throw them these elaborate birthday parties and things like that so fun. I know it's so cute.
Speaker 1:I love looking at the pictures. I know I'm obsessed with them.
Speaker 2:You're like a beverly hills mom you're like whatever it's, fifty thousand dollars, whatever, I mean, they're worth it, it's true they're worth it.
Speaker 1:It's true, they're worth it, it's true.
Speaker 2:I mean, I just can't believe they had a.
Speaker 1:Taylor Swift golden theme party for Callie a couple weeks ago. That was super fun. Weather sucked, so annoying.
Speaker 2:Oh.
Speaker 1:God had to drag the stuff in like a dead goat Just dragging shit.
Speaker 2:Dragging shit is awful.
Speaker 1:But it was super fun.
Speaker 2:The fucking perks of the bird.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean, it was fine. But yeah it was super fun. I love parties. I'm doing a baby sprinkle. Are you Mm-hmm For Shelly? Shelly, yeah, she's having a third baby. She is oh, my God, yeah girl.
Speaker 2:Oh my God, get up to speed, let's go, shelly.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I just assumed she was done because her boys are a little older.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's kind of nice to have that gap sometimes I think, yeah, you get to like like, take the kids like to school and then have like a like a, like a little baby. And it's so nice, perfect, so I'm having a little sprinkle for her, so I'm super excited.
Speaker 2:Okay, so this sprinkle thing is this like a new thing after COVID, or has it always been a thing? No, the sprinkle is yeah. Explain to everyone what that is, if you already had a baby shower.
Speaker 1:Okay, you were spoiled and had a baby shower, and then there's some time that lapses and you like get rid of all your shit.
Speaker 2:Yeah Right, a lot of people do.
Speaker 1:Well, yeah, because you think you're done having kids, or if you have a girl and then the next one's a boy that storage.
Speaker 2:You don't want it to just be sitting in your attic.
Speaker 1:I mean, I don't, I just throw all the shit away.
Speaker 2:You donate it.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:Not the landfill Katie Not the landfill.
Speaker 3:No, don't feel bad. I tried to donate my baby stuff and they wouldn't take anything.
Speaker 1:People don't want it. They wouldn't take it. People don't want that vomited stuff. It's gross.
Speaker 2:They throw up on it. There's a lot of fluids.
Speaker 1:As a mom, I would just want new stuff. But anyway, I'm doing a little sprinkle for her.
Speaker 2:I'm super excited about it. You're going to be popping bottles.
Speaker 1:I have some freaking.
Speaker 2:Lutely, you're not pregnant, not everybody is as invited.
Speaker 1:I can never do something small, so like I'm doing like a moon and like moon theme for her like over the moon. Oh, that's cute. And I had like said to Matt I was like what are you going to build me this moon, like in the garage? No, like he builds me stuff out of wood.
Speaker 3:Like have you ever seen?
Speaker 2:all the stuff he builds? Is he handy?
Speaker 1:He became handy because I made him.
Speaker 3:Oh, fuck the designer.
Speaker 1:I was like I need you to build me this and this and this. So he was like he was going to build me this moon. But I ended up finding it, and I found someone to make it for me out of foam board, so he got off the hook. But typically he builds me all of that shit like the barbie box, the life-size barbie box. Did you see that? Oh yeah I did see that he made that.
Speaker 3:He made it. I thought you rented that no he made it very cool and now I rent it.
Speaker 2:You rent it out to people.
Speaker 1:Okay, that's like, let's go where do you get? She's not only a bougie bitch she's business savvy.
Speaker 2:Right, they want it. You gotta pay. Yeah, yeah, so like. But how does he have any time, since he's like going back and forth from florida.
Speaker 1:Business savvy right, they want it. You got to pay, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:So like. But how does he have any time, since he's like going back and forth from Florida selling real estate Pennsylvania?
Speaker 1:He stays up until the middle of the night. I'm like get back to the garage and finish it.
Speaker 2:It kind of turns me on, like I'm kind of like, doesn't turn him on.
Speaker 1:He's like oh my God, what do you mean? You do now?
Speaker 2:He's like oh my God, what are you making me do now?
Speaker 3:Oh my God, I'm looking at you two At least he listens to you though.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I will say Matt adores me. Yeah, I can tell he adores my every like. He's such a good guy Like I could never ask for anything better.
Speaker 2:He likes that.
Speaker 3:you're a little alpha Wait were you just about to compliment us? Yeah, absolutely. Were you going to compliment us? Oh, yeah, were you going?
Speaker 1:to say something. Oh please, oh, my god, let's go.
Speaker 2:I was just like looking at you guys and you're both like laughing and I'm like you look like your sisters.
Speaker 3:I know we kind of look like your sisters. I mean it's kind of crazy. I mean she's married into the family.
Speaker 2:But we can pass as real cousins thrown at home like literally, with like a bunch of your photos and she's like I'm going to get hair like Katie, and so then she's like I mean like she literally looks at your fucking TikTok and she scrolls through everything. It's kind of cute, but then it's also a little creepy, oh my gosh.
Speaker 3:I love these made up stories. She's like I want Valentino too. Ryan, I know right when I said that I was like you.
Speaker 1:Better tell him to get you this belt back. This is a necessity for a mom Can you tell the story about how your wallet was stolen. Oh my God, what a loser. That guy was so annoying.
Speaker 2:You sound so valley sometimes.
Speaker 1:Listen, but he was a loser. Okay, oh my God, he was so bad. Who does that? What a scumbag. So I was at the Giant Eagle in the Seven Fields. Giant Eagle.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, market district or Giant Eagle, no, it's just it's not a good market district when it's this up where we live.
Speaker 1:And I had Callie with me it was one of our like days and you know she's so cute. She was like so cute then.
Speaker 2:Because she wasn. Yeah, because now she's so fucking annoying.
Speaker 1:No, she's not annoying. She's so cute. You love her.
Speaker 2:Well, when you said that she didn't talk, because I'm like, oh okay, no, but she was like a little bad, but anyway. So I'm like in there, like doing all my stuff.
Speaker 1:I had my big, huge Burberry tote like sitting in the cart.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:No, whatever. Like just shit strewed to boot Right, probably like diapers in it, like who knows. Anyway, I like long story short. I go to the checkout line. Callie's at this point not cute, she was just like you know like I didn't want to be there screaming and I'm like struggling to find like my wallet. I'm like trying to I have this like I'd probably like five hundred dollars worth of groceries you know, it's like so embarrassing when you're like standing there and I have this lady who, like, was not pleasant because, like, she did not want to be working there at the Giant Eagle.
Speaker 1:And she was like what are you doing? And I'm like I can't find my wallet. I'm like you just like hold on a minute, because like I can't like with you right now, like, please just calm down. Giant Eagle lady, Calm down. Giant Eagle lady Like cashier, lady Like I just need a minute.
Speaker 2:Can you just say that soundbite real quick.
Speaker 1:Calm down Giant Eagle lady, real quick. Calm down. Giant eagle, calm down like giant eagle cashier lady. Like I literally said it to her.
Speaker 1:I was like, please calm down because, like I can't with you at this moment and I'm like fumbling in my bag, like trying to find this shit, so I can't find it. I'm like I'm like texting matt. I'm like I can't find my fucking wallet. I'm like and I have this, all these fucking groceries I'm flipping out. He's like calling me. He's like where are you like what is happening? I'm like and I have this, all these fucking groceries I'm flipping out. He's like calling me. He's like where are you Like what is happening? I'm like you, son of a bitch, you probably took my wallet out of my purse. And he's like I take your fucking wallet out of your purse. What are you talking about? I'm like I'm going to kill you when I get home.
Speaker 2:You know and I'm like blaming it on him I have no money and I didn't have my Apple Pay set up at this point either.
Speaker 1:This was like a couple years ago.
Speaker 2:Before that was a whole thing Whole thing, I'm very fired up right now talking about this story.
Speaker 1:No, it's stressful, so anyway, I go to the car like a dog with my tail between my legs. The baby's like screaming. I'm all flustered. I get in the car and then I realize I'm like son of a bitch I bought.
Speaker 2:Starbucks at Giant People when I got there.
Speaker 1:I was like I had my wallet. So I marched right back in there and I'm like I had my wallet in this store and they were like well, maybe you left it at the Starbucks and they didn't have it there. So then I was like no, you need to go look at the cameras because someone stole my wallet. And sure enough, literally like right after I went to Starbucks, I was in the salad aisle and I like turned around to grab a bag of salad and some creeper went into my bag and stole my wallet what I swear to god.
Speaker 1:And then by the time I got home I was like on my phone or whatever. I get all these fraud alerts on my phone, on my text messages, saying like did you just spend $ thousand dollars at the right aid, four thousand dollars at best?
Speaker 3:buy like what the fuck do you buy?
Speaker 1:so I guess, what they do these people they? Take yours up they get the gift cards because then they can't be deactivated or whatever. I'm not, I'm not even kidding. It was such an. It was such a cluster and my biggest thing was like I loved that wall. It was like a burberry wall and mac got it for me for my anniversary so I was like all fired up. I was like hell.
Speaker 3:No, I was like I loved that wallet.
Speaker 1:It was like a Burberry wallet and Matt got it for me for my anniversary, so I was like all fired up.
Speaker 1:I was like hell no, I was like mm-mm. No, ma'am. So I like went like the police were like do you want to file charges? I was like freaking, absolutely, because I want that wallet back. Yes, and here's another part of this funny story. I have the best person ever. You will love her anyway. I like told her about it and she's so. She's like crazy like me. She was like I'm gonna go find that shit, because I was more nervous, because I was like they have my license and all this stuff.
Speaker 3:I was like what if they come to?
Speaker 1:well, I was like what if they come to steal the baby because they saw the baby? And then I started cute she's real cute she could be a lot of money on the market right and then so I started like panicking because I was like, oh my god, what if they come?
Speaker 1:get her for child trafficking like whole thing and matt was like babe, I think they just stole your wallet. And I was like, I was like fuck you too, because I'm you know. I was like oh my god, she drove she drove her big freaking lincoln navigator right up to the giant eagle. She went through the garbage cans at the Giant Eagle and the Rite Aid I swear to you she found it Pulled everything out. They dumped everything my license, everything was in the garbage can. What she found? It all. She's smart.
Speaker 2:I wouldn't have thought to do that. She found it all. What's her background?
Speaker 1:She can find anything on anybody.
Speaker 3:So if you ever need to know something, you let me know and she'll find it. She can find anything on anybody. So if you ever need to know something, you let me know and she'll find it.
Speaker 2:She's like a super sleuth online, but anyway she did.
Speaker 3:She found out.
Speaker 1:She was like well, good news, like they're not going to steal your baby because I have your ID. And I was like oh my God, thank God, that is a real friend. I know she was amazing. She was like dumpster diving kristin went and got my shit oh my god, I'll never forget that.
Speaker 2:You better have taken her out to dinner, but I'll do anything for her.
Speaker 1:I would die for her. We're like the best.
Speaker 2:What's her background like? What does she do for work she owns?
Speaker 1:she owns her own company uh-huh and it's a sand and gravel company and she goes out and actually like mines sand and shit Like gets like huge dump trucks out of like sand pits.
Speaker 2:I love this. She's the best, so she could hide a body for us.
Speaker 1:Absolutely.
Speaker 3:She's the first person I'm calling Keep her in the back pocket.
Speaker 2:I love that. She's the best. Oh my god, I think Matt kind of gets turned on when you get fired up.
Speaker 1:I saw this at his birthday, unless it's unless he's in trouble.
Speaker 2:Then he has his tail between his legs, okay.
Speaker 1:Because he's yeah, he gets in trouble a lot.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah. Now I thought which was so interesting you told me that, like when you went on vacation, you went into the hotel room and you're like, ooh, no, this is not big enough. They can hear us having no, immediately no. Explain to the audience what that means.
Speaker 1:There are certain things when you get older.
Speaker 2:There have to be all the stars. And you're not even that old. You're not old, I'm old enough, you're like 33.
Speaker 1:The stars have to align in order for me to fornicate. I cannot. It's too much to fornicate. I love it. The stars have to be aligned, the sheets have to be a certain thread count and Matt will agree.
Speaker 2:Oh my God, Booty little bitch.
Speaker 1:He'll be like oh my God, yeah, like she has she, yes. Like everything has to be like perfect.
Speaker 2:Or I'm just like immediately no Like, don't look at me, don't talk to me, don't touch me. Yeah, I get it. I mean I don't get you. Have multiple jobs yeah.
Speaker 1:A lot of jobs, a lot of kids, three dogs.
Speaker 2:Three what?
Speaker 1:No, what Three golden retrievers, huge hairy ass dogs.
Speaker 2:And how do you keep your house clean?
Speaker 1:All I do is clean vacuum.
Speaker 2:Oh my, God, I'm surprised you don't have like a hat, like a, like a live-in, like housekeeper.
Speaker 1:We do have cleaners, god bless them, miss Rosanna.
Speaker 2:Rosanna, miss Rosanna, she doesn't mess around.
Speaker 1:She is Russian and she comes in like a tornado with her helpers.
Speaker 3:And she's like she gets it done, rosanna.
Speaker 2:We might need to get Rosanna to help us, because it's like we probably have like half of the size of your house. But like I feel like I'm always cleaning, I'm going to need her in the winter, because I now have five animals.
Speaker 3:Ava got a kitten for her birthday.
Speaker 2:I have two cats and three dogs.
Speaker 3:I know I'm crazy. How does she have animals? I'm trying to make it a little crowded so that we can move faster.
Speaker 2:She's a good tactic. I might try to get pregnant too, then I would need a new tactic.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I might try to get pregnant too, so that I like, because then I would need a new bedroom like another bedroom.
Speaker 1:It's like she's like pulling out all the stops. You're going to catfish him into getting pregnant.
Speaker 3:I'm just I'm ready to go to the suburbs.
Speaker 2:I did that with Callie, you know.
Speaker 1:Did you?
Speaker 2:Oh, you did.
Speaker 1:Oh, absolutely I like it, matt. We're like if it happens.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:It happens.
Speaker 2:So he was pulling out?
Speaker 1:Yeah, but it wasn't like it wasn't like Matt was like done having kids.
Speaker 2:That's where we're at right now and I was never done having kids. Usually it's the men, right, that want to be done. Yeah, like Matt was just happy.
Speaker 3:He was like we, like do things and like not have an anchor baby.
Speaker 1:It's like what his thing was.
Speaker 2:So that's a very good point. I think that's what it's called anchor baby. Well, yeah, because they hold you down. Right, I do now I'm like I didn't understand the third, but yeah yeah.
Speaker 1:so I, I know I was just like yeah, sure babe, like that's fine. I know I was just like yeah, sure babe, like that's fine, like whatever. Meanwhile I was like peeing on a stick tracking my ovulation. Like jumping on him immediately.
Speaker 2:And then you're like holding him while he's about to come.
Speaker 1:Just legs up, legs up on the headboard, and then you're like literally like letting it go vertically in you.
Speaker 3:He had no idea, God bless him. God bless him. He's like wow, this is great.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he loves me, or wait, you were getting him drunk yeah. I was just like.
Speaker 2:You're like no whiskey dick here. Yeah, it was the best thing ever, yeah.
Speaker 1:So you guys are too cute. He was just like I can't believe you're pregnant. I'm like me either. You're gonna have to work a little harder, baby and he was like did you really like get pregnant and not tell me? And I was like well, I mean, you said if it happened and I made it happen and he busted his, not in you.
Speaker 2:I mean, hey, it's not that surprising when the men are like, wow, what wait, you're pregnant. Well you, did it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you did it, you know that matt's mom watches this podcast.
Speaker 2:Oh shit and kathy, I am so sorry. I just want to apologize. This is a disclaimer and, kathy, please forgive me for what I'm about to say yeah, maybe like don't listen to that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and Kathy, maybe let's like Like fast forward you know what you only live once. Everyone who knows me, knows me.
Speaker 2:Yeah, if there's anything that you would want to take to like your legacy, the quote of Katie, like what would be on your life, like bio, I guess what am I trying to say, guys, like what's your quote, what's your mantra, I don't care what other people think about me. I will say that I don't care what other people think.
Speaker 1:I do not.
Speaker 2:I don't care about it.
Speaker 1:I don't I mean, it's just.
Speaker 2:Is that why you're unfiltered?
Speaker 1:I think so.
Speaker 2:Yeah, how is that with the mom community?
Speaker 1:It's 50-50.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:A lot of people either really like me or they really don't.
Speaker 2:And you don't care if they don't.
Speaker 3:No.
Speaker 2:Which I love.
Speaker 3:that Are there really people that, like, don't like you. Oh yeah See, I've always just loved you, so like I can't even imagine why someone wouldn't like you.
Speaker 1:There's a lot of people like I'm very like raunchy, like I swear a lot. I love that. Yeah, there's a lot of moms that don't you know, like a lot of moms that are, like, more reserved, I mean keep in mind that I do have two kids in Catholic school.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's true, do they like not let?
Speaker 1:their kids hang out with your kids? Well, not that I know of.
Speaker 2:I know them.
Speaker 1:Right. I mean, there's just, you know, there's different people with different lifestyles and different things you know, absolutely, I mean there's a lot of people in my neighborhood who hate me.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:A lot. Well, because you're always driving with like the Bentleys and like you're at the Rollie and stuff. No, they hate me because, like I, have zero tolerance for these people in like my neighborhood.
Speaker 2:Good for you, bitch. We have like this, like circle of like cool people in.
Speaker 3:Fuck the Karens and the Brad Like the hella people that are like always reporting people for no reason. Well, they're just like assholes and I like call them out about it.
Speaker 1:Like. They'll like. They'll like.
Speaker 2:Make a post on like the neighborhood Facebook page and I'm just like oh, do you want to come fucking a shed there? You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 1:Well, we got into a big fight about fireworks a couple years ago. Because I of course, had this glorious party for Kira.
Speaker 2:Yes, and Kira's your baby. No, she's the oldest, oh, the oldest.
Speaker 1:We had an outdoor movie night with a huge movie screen and I had, like you know, looked like like it was just adorable. Anyway, of course, we had a firework show, like an entire 4th of July firework show. What is?
Speaker 2:this A TV show I know.
Speaker 1:So anyway, where we live, there are cows and you're allowed to light off fireworks.
Speaker 3:That's it. You're allowed to Is it cows, cows.
Speaker 1:yeah, we have cows. You can see them right across the. I've never seen them. Oh my god, If you're in my yard you can like hear them and see them.
Speaker 3:Oh my god, we have to come up.
Speaker 1:I've never went like back into your yard, I've just been on your back porch or patio. Oh yeah, we did her gender reveal on my back when I was super young, oh my god.
Speaker 2:But anyway we're gonna have to come over and see the cows.
Speaker 1:Yeah, absolutely yeah, they live right under like a 5G cell phone tower, so I probably wouldn't eat their meat oh yeah, that's kind of weird.
Speaker 2:I know that might be problematic, yeah how far away.
Speaker 3:I've stared at those before and it made me like dizzy, like just looking at the tower. If you're close enough.
Speaker 1:It's not close to me. I mean, like you have to like go through the valley and like up another road or whatever, but I just wouldn't eat that meat. No, I wouldn't either where did you up? I grew up in like right in McCandless.
Speaker 2:You went to North. Allegheny Did you know, christina.
Speaker 1:Aguilera, I did not. I think she was a couple years older than me then.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I guess she would have been yeah, Maybe only a couple. I was kind of like bad.
Speaker 2:You were like a bad girl, so I had to go to the alternative high school.
Speaker 3:What did you do? I didn't know they had that what's?
Speaker 1:that called that Beatty Technical School.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, oh, you went to Beatty.
Speaker 1:Tech. But they used to have an alternative high school inside of Beatty Technical School for like bad kids. You're kidding me. I'm not kidding.
Speaker 2:Wow, so you were a naughty girl. I was bad Like you just wouldn't listen to the teachers.
Speaker 3:I just like fought with a lot of people. Wait, did you?
Speaker 1:like physical, yeah, like I fought with a lot of people, so they were like Wait, you were scrappy. They were like we think it would be better if you like went here.
Speaker 2:Oh my god, katie is a scrappy bitch. We got to go to school for like a really short time. Of the day. That is so funny, so this is very insightful.
Speaker 3:Wait, I had no idea, you seem like very prim and proper. I don't see you as like a she is now, oh yeah.
Speaker 2:Matt made the girl a housewife.
Speaker 3:I don't know about that Wait, this Katie McKenna drink is really good.
Speaker 2:I know so sugar-free.
Speaker 3:We didn't say what it was, so it is Tito's, with what is this called Sparkling ice Sparkling ice drinks.
Speaker 2:Can you make me another one?
Speaker 3:Thank you, put me to work.
Speaker 1:Matt always makes these drinks for all of my friends and then they call it the rapey drinks, Rapey.
Speaker 3:Rapey Because.
Speaker 1:Matt makes everything so strong, but literally sometimes we have to drive the moms home from our house because they're so drunk.
Speaker 2:Good for you. Can you please calm it down?
Speaker 1:Well, no, we don't have the DUIs.
Speaker 2:Oh, no, no, no, not you, I'm saying the moms. I heard like a lot of these moms like Well, yeah, maybe.
Speaker 3:So Matt makes the drinks, drives them. I'm coming over to your house, I'm not going to ride home.
Speaker 1:You should He'll moms come over. They all drink Like spray tan. Yeah, we have to get them all spray tanned. Yeah, like the littles, oh, like little Callie's, so tiny in there and she's, like, you know, like the spray tan that is so cute Matt cooks all the meals.
Speaker 3:He is a good cook.
Speaker 1:And his meals are so good.
Speaker 3:She always has a Christmas Eve party every year.
Speaker 1:Yes, the best day.
Speaker 3:And I look forward to it every year because the food is so good that Matt always makes those sandwiches that he made, oh yeah.
Speaker 1:I guess it's like steak and then he puts, I don't know, some sort of like hollandaise or whatever. Thank you so much.
Speaker 3:That was the best sandwich I ever had, but anyway, he made a comment.
Speaker 1:What did he make a comment? So I used to cook all the time when I worked. I used to meal plan and I would cook and I would do whatever. Well, he made a comment one time about how I like didn't have enough like variety. And you know what I said to him? I was like I'm never fucking cooking another meal in this house again and I haven't. Wow, it's probably like eight, ten maybe even more years.
Speaker 2:Wait, you've never made any eggs.
Speaker 1:I mean I'll make eggs for the kids. I don't cook, because he made a comment, so does he do all the cooking? Yeah, all of it.
Speaker 3:Every single night he cooks, Does he do Grubhub and DoorDash and stuff too, or does he cook every?
Speaker 1:night, no he cooks pretty much every night and we have Pizza Friday. He makes homemade pizzas and all that kind of stuff. That's impressive.
Speaker 2:You really trained him.
Speaker 1:But he tried to be like oh yeah, that's not enough shit, and I'm like, there you go.
Speaker 3:What were your staples? What was it that you normally would cook?
Speaker 1:Well, I only make chicken, so he was like, but he only really makes chicken for me. But I am happy with eating Cheerios every single day for dinner.
Speaker 2:I don't care about food. I'm not a foodie. No me either. I'm really not, yeah.
Speaker 1:So, like for me, I'm just like whatever Like he's making, like homemade hollandaise sauces and like all, this stuff like I could care less about. I'm just like give me a-.
Speaker 2:Food for function. Yeah, I just need a function.
Speaker 3:Like that's how. I am because our grandfather really loved to cook too. Yeah.
Speaker 1:So he does mention that, that's really that's really heartwarming.
Speaker 3:And he was like when granddaddy died.
Speaker 1:Poor mama like ate cereal every day because like she didn't know how to cook I see the women didn't cook- no.
Speaker 2:So, since you're the experienced work wife and you know condesaur of design, what do you recommend to Kelly, being a new mom-ish like in Pittsburgh? She's coming back after 10 years. She's trying to get her footing. What do you recommend for her to? Be, Just to be at your level.
Speaker 3:Oh man, Thanks for telling me that I'm below her.
Speaker 2:Oh shit. No, I'm just saying baby sister is learning her footing.
Speaker 1:Maybe I shouldn't have said that I'm sorry, you're such an asshole to me sometimes I know, I think you have to like find your tribe of moms, so you have to find moms that love your kids as much as you love them. Is that hard? Yes, yeah, you will cycle through a ton of mom friends that you think are like your friends but they're not. I've come across that a lot in the past couple years where I've had to actually like stop being friends with people who I thought were like super close to me and like creating a boundary one thing about me is like I have like a light switch, and I will do.
Speaker 1:I will be your best friend, I will do anything for you. I will come clean your house when you have a baby. I will do anything. But if you fuck with me and cross me or cross my kids, I will never talk to you again and in fact I will probably ruin your reputation with everybody I come across.
Speaker 3:I feel like I'm getting there though.
Speaker 1:Like I don't have a tolerance for people anymore Like I don't Really Like I don't care.
Speaker 2:He's scared.
Speaker 1:I'm a little scared of you Like that's one thing about me. Like I will slit your throat and watch you bleed. Yeah, without a doubt. Yeah, if you cross me or cross my kids. Yeah, okay.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I have come across like what about my husband?
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, he people Matt's so sweet that like not many people would ever like say anything about him, but if they would like, I would definitely kill them too.
Speaker 1:You have to like find who loves you for you and like like truly loves you, Like you can go eight months without talking to them and then you can call them and be like hey, I need you, or like I'm going through this thing or I need like help or whatever, and then they're immediately there, whereas, like you meet these other moms that are just like I don't know, it's just, it's. It's hard to explain, but, like you'll know when you know, and then you just have to be strong enough to cut them off. I have a couple of people that, like you know, I'm not so close with anymore, but I still, like I love them as a person.
Speaker 1:So it's like really hard Like you want to see them succeed and you want to love them but like it's so hard when someone doesn't love you back.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:Or can't, and you don't know why.
Speaker 2:Well, somebody said it was a good comparison. It's kind of like life is like the minivan or the suburban effect, like you have those people that are in the front row, the second row, but then sometimes you got to put them in the third row. Like they're distant, you still love them, but like you're not, like they're not in your front row anymore.
Speaker 1:It's hard. It's definitely hard as you get older to like see those things, because when you're younger it's just kind of like. You're like, oh, it's fine, it's fine, it's fine until it's not, and you're just like what the fuck am I doing? Yeah, like I only have maybe 40 more good years on this earth. I'm not gonna waste them fucking with you I ain't fucking with you nope, but like, you just have to.
Speaker 1:You just have to know when to. You have to know when to like cut your ties and you'll you'll get more friends. You'll have more mom friends. You'll have another tribe like as as your kid does, activities whatever you'll be asked to be part of the freaking homeroom, mom, and then you gotta fuck with that and that's annoying.
Speaker 2:Oh God, I don't want her to go away from like me working at the pod, but you know I'm going to be the lunchroom lady.
Speaker 1:That's so nice, oh.
Speaker 2:Oh no, that's a thing. You have to open the lunch containers, duh. How would you feel if one of your children were gay or lesbian? Oh my god it's totally fine yeah, I just want because you have a gay best friend that's all I care about yes like finding someone that they love is the most important thing like I would never like.
Speaker 2:There's no yeah, now do you feel like you kind of have a messy past and you've evolved into this like kind of quintessential, like you know well-to-do career woman, housewife, that you can maybe like put onto your children to be just as successful? Or do you just want them to be happy and do whatever they love?
Speaker 1:I want them to be happy and do whatever they love, but I know that my kids see how hard I work and how much I like nice things. That's huge for me.
Speaker 2:Not materialistic.
Speaker 1:Well, yeah, like if you want to live in a nice house and you want to go on these expensive vacations and like do stuff, you have to work hard for it.
Speaker 3:Like it's not going to fall into your lap.
Speaker 1:You're not born into like a super wealthy family kids Like, so you better figure it out and we've started having that conversation with Kira about college and stuff and I'm like, listen, you don't have to go to college, but you have to do something that's going to like give you purpose.
Speaker 1:So whatever that may be like that's what I want you to do. Now she is talking about going like. She was like what if I go to cosmetology school? And I was like accept that. She was like oh my god, I'm like why? And I was like I, oh my god, mom, like why? And I was like I just it's just like really hard it is. It's very long days, it's so long and it's just like they wouldn't have much of a life, right, and I just was like. I was like I just but it's so creative.
Speaker 1:It is. And I will say Kira is super creative Like she's, like me. We have like.
Speaker 3:You basically have two jobs, because you design things for, like, birthday parties and you're basically an event planner and decorator.
Speaker 2:Interior designer. How does somebody?
Speaker 1:get in contact with you. I feel like everybody knows me. Referral.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Like I have so many design clients that I can't even keep up with them right now. You can't really take on any more, right now. Yeah, right now I'm pretty tapped out.
Speaker 2:And you work for the home builder. Yeah, yeah, I Right now I'm pretty tapped out, but um and you work for the home builder?
Speaker 1:Yeah, I do. I get to do all of everyone's exteriors. It's super fun. I work for an amazing company that I absolutely love, so I'm really, really fortunate in my life right now for sure.
Speaker 2:Well, Katie, thank you for inspiring us to work just as hard.
Speaker 1:Keep going. You're going to kill it in real estate.
Speaker 2:I'm excited for you, thank you so much and I love what you said. You were like why the fuck aren't you working with Matt? And I said only because of my great aunt who's got the Rolodex.
Speaker 1:God bless her and her Rolodex.
Speaker 2:I hope it brings you all the wealth.
Speaker 1:Thank you so much for coming on, mocktails or Messy. We love you, katie I know, I'm so excited.
Speaker 2:Thank you for having me. Now let's get Liddy Cheers. Katie, oh shit. Katie McKenna, love you. Thank you for listening To. Mocktails Are Messy. This is Ryan Frankofsky and Callie Musgorski.
Speaker 3:Ciao.
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