Mocktails Or Messy
Mocktails Or Messy
🗽 Nude York Weekend 🌃 | EP23
Ever wondered how a quirky New York alcohol law could set the stage for a hilarious and heartfelt podcast? Kelly Mizgorski and Ryan Frankowski kick off “Mocktails Or Messy” by sharing their vibrant New York adventures—from the Palm Tree Music Festival to Ryan’s into the unique energy of summer in NYC, as Kelly and Ryan recount stories that will make you wish you were right there with them.
Next up, we tackle the often controversial topic of personal beauty standards, using our guilty pleasure of following the Kardashians as a springboard for discussion. We debate whether hair extensions, Botox, and spray tans are tools for empowerment or societal pressure traps. Along the way, we share practical travel tips for maintaining fabulous hair and emphasize the importance of self-love and confidence in making beauty choices that feel right for you.
Lastly, get ready for candid conversations about navigating relationships in the Big Apple. From thrilling Grindr encounters and wild nightlife stories to setting boundaries with exes and old friends, we share our personal tales and hard-earned wisdom. We even touch on the joys and challenges of coastal living versus landlocked life. As always, we invite you, our listeners, to share your messiest stories and join us on this hilarious journey, redefining what it means to be “messy” in our 30s, 40s, and beyond. So grab your favorite mocktail, sit back, and let's get messy together!
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recharges your energy. I've never tried it, I was just.
Speaker 2:You said that you like naked yoga they start to like pile up in the apartment. I'm talking like there were like three blondes at the same time and they were just like so wait, how long have you known him? Don't hate me, you're unfriend me, but I've never watched I was sweating profusely because I was just like working twerking moving you know grooving and they were just. What the hell are you on? What is he on?
Speaker 1:I think that I'm not showing anything for anybody. Anything I do is for myself. If someone wants to use me as a beauty standard, then that's a compliment.
Speaker 2:Cheers to that baby.
Speaker 1:Hi there, this is Kelly Musgorski.
Speaker 2:And Ryan Frankofsky and you're listening to. Mocktails are Messy Are you gonna get messy today, kelly, or are you gonna get mocktailed?
Speaker 1:I mean, I'm just gonna have a little bit of wine and don't sound so excited, I know right, I've been up since early this morning, yes, so you definitely are tired as well as me.
Speaker 2:I just flew in, but today we got from dandy lion wine shop in greenpoint, brooklyn, new york newish neighborhood. It's called dandy line bottle shop they hooked us up with the beach house sauvignon blanc oh, and we're gonna go to the beach house in the hamptons. Today we're gonna do something that you didn't know about, which is of weird you cannot sell a non-alcoholic bottle in a New York alcoholic shop. Does that make sense? That is so interesting.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so like a wine shop in New York, I guess the state in general, they're not legally allowed to sell non-alcoholic bottles.
Speaker 1:Well, you know what I kind of feel like. If I was just running in real quick to an alcohol shop and I was trying to grab a bottle, I wouldn't read non-alcoholic. So I'd be kind of pissed off if I ran in, grabbed something real quick.
Speaker 2:Got home and found out it was non-alcoholic.
Speaker 1:Because I'm going to an alcohol shop. So I don't know, maybe there's something to it.
Speaker 2:That might be it. I mean it's kind of weird that they have, like you know, now weed and all these bodegas, these little delis now in New York. And I just found that bizarre to me because, like living in LA, it was like such a phenomenon. It's like, oh, now weed is, like you know, legalized in California and it's always been it california and it's always been it feels like, is it legal in new york? Now I don't know what the I'm so confused about all of this. I think it is because now they're all popping up. But, um, yeah, so I have the ginson, de-alcoholized new zealand sauvignon blanc, and it is pretty good. It looks six grams of sugar per serving, pretty damn good. And then, look, they even have per container okay, so you're gonna get really like non-alcoholic the whole?
Speaker 2:calories per container 100 calories. What now? The sugar's a little steep 13 grams of sugar.
Speaker 1:But that's not bad for a whole bottle if that's your sugar for the day, I mean it's a little more than what we'd like to go with but love it.
Speaker 2:Trying to give you a little bit of Hamptons vibes today. You know I was in New York for work and then ended up going to a concert with one of my dear friends from college. We had such a good time. It was the Palm Tree Festival.
Speaker 1:Okay, that's so palm trees in New. York. Yeah, that's a little interesting. Yeah, I mean, my weekend definitely wasn't as exciting as yours, but I had my hair done.
Speaker 2:I got tag, teamed by my two favorite uh, stylists, the question how comfortable are you being passed between two men? I said tag team. I'm like whoa, you're getting tag teamed by two gay hairstylists like they're magicians but I didn't know they were going to do that to you.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, it was great.
Speaker 2:And it does look amazing. Can you do a little spin for us?
Speaker 1:Like show us the back, Mmm, mmm. Thank you, dawson, thank you, dan. You know, when you want to walk out with a little pep in your step, go to Studio Raw. If you want to just feel good about yourself, increase your confidence, go to Studio Raw.
Speaker 2:My mom was like mesmerized by your video, your little tick.
Speaker 1:Oh my God, yeah, she was like.
Speaker 2:I love my hairstylist, but I want to go there now because it's just the vibe. It's like a little spa, really, or a day club.
Speaker 1:You feel like you're at a party or like you're chilling with your friends.
Speaker 2:So, speaking of parties, I really missed you this weekend. I needed my right hand woman I know I need to make it up to new york with you next time I know, and I as much as you said, like, oh, I'd rather be in la because of the nice weather and stuff. But something about new york in the summer it might be hot as hell, you're sweating, you're dripping, you're melting, but the energy there's so many like interesting people just like people say, the energy there is just buzzing.
Speaker 1:I mean, I haven't been there in 15 years. I went when I was like 15 or 16 years old and I loved it so much. I just love to go back with you.
Speaker 2:Yes, we're going to make some work trip out of it.
Speaker 1:Now you tell me what happened there, tell me all about it.
Speaker 2:Okay. So, you know, when I arrived, I was able to connect with a group, a museum that I used to work for whenever I was, you know, first moving to New York, I was, like you know, just graduating college, you know, paying those student loans off and I needed some extra cash. And I found this group, the Leslie Lohman Museum, and then they had a drawing group, and so I did some art modeling back in the day in my early twenties, nude right Nude.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, you know me, that's art nude.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know me, that's art. I mean, you know me, kelly, I love any excuse to, like you know, be like nude, yoga nude, beach nude, this nude, that I mean some people are like oh my god, like stop, like that is just fucking weird.
Speaker 1:But like you, either get it do you sun your butthole when you do the nude yoga? What? It's apparently a power portal. If you lay on your back and grab your toes. It's like the happy baby pose, or something.
Speaker 2:Oh, my God, and you like, open up your haunches, your cheeks.
Speaker 1:You let the sun like shine on your butthole. It apparently recharges your energy. I've never tried it, I was just you said that. Okay, listen. You said you did you like naked yoga. So I'm just wondering.
Speaker 2:I mean, I've never heard of this. So wait, it recharges you, so you have to be in the sun.
Speaker 1:You have to be at like the nude beach. You have to be outside in the sun, and the sun has to be hitting your hole.
Speaker 2:Oh my God, I mean. I mean I guess back in my fire island days, like I don't know, or maybe my sandy hook or sandy, there's a beach in jersey that like everybody goes to from new york, but I never tried that. I think that would. I don't know. I feel like I would feel really like uncomfortable.
Speaker 1:Maybe not at the beach, maybe in your backyard, in your backyard, like.
Speaker 2:I don't think the other beachgoers want to see your asshole.
Speaker 1:I could be wrong, but um yeah that is so funny, you do know some tricks.
Speaker 2:You really did some art modeling. I ended up like reaching out to the team at um, the drawing studio that I work for. It's just like an extra, like I know it sounds really bizarre, but like feel like I connected really well with these group of artists in New York and it was just always fun to see these drawing studios and it's just like I even got my ex involved a couple times to post-nude. It's just like, hey, if you can make an extra 400 bucks, why not?
Speaker 1:Yeah, but it's not easy work. You have to stand still right For a long time.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I guess that's something that I never really thought was a big deal, because I'm like into yoga, yeah, flexibility, movement, so like for me to just like stand in a pose for 20 minutes, as long as it's somewhat.
Speaker 1:I can't do it. I start getting like lightheaded and freaked out. I have to be moving. I cannot stand in the same pose for 20 minutes.
Speaker 2:Oh, so you're not going to be able to do it when we have our brand launch in New.
Speaker 1:York, so I would have to be like sitting, maybe like sitting on a chair like Britney Spears.
Speaker 2:Oh, yes, yeah, I'd be okay with that but, not like standing and not moving at all. Okay, so we'll recreate the shot from our cover art and you will be sitting in a chair.
Speaker 1:Yes, and then I'll be pouring in the messy cocktail from the shaker into your mouth.
Speaker 2:So are we gonna do like art? Yes, we're gonna do nude art okay, as long as you get it approved by your husband oh, I don't have to get anything approved by him honey you are such a good wife I love that or you just have like a really good marriage and I'm jealous. I I did meet some of my, like you know, interesting characters in the city. Like you know, I was like having such a blast, like you know, being a samantha jones from sex in the city.
Speaker 1:You know the reference don't hate me, you're don't unfriend me, but I've never watched sex in the city before what, what? I know I literally like why?
Speaker 2:why am I just finding this out right now? Like did you tell me this before?
Speaker 1:like please tell me, you told me and I forgot no, I actually like just kept pretending that maybe I saw it before because I didn't really want to tell you, because you're so obsessed.
Speaker 2:You are fucking killing me girl.
Speaker 1:I know.
Speaker 2:I guess you watch gossip girl. No, what the fuck. See now, you don't appreciate me, listen, I've never watched TV, Like I'm not a TV watcher, you're a movie girl. I will watch a movie like one time I will not watch it over and over again and I do enjoy reality TV shows and over again, and I do enjoy reality tv shows.
Speaker 1:But um, I have not watched many tv series. What's your favorite reality show? I'm just gonna say it's the bachelor, bachelor, bachelorette. Just because I've been watching it, I've been following it for so long um.
Speaker 2:I mean oh, the kardashians for sure, okay, so like that's something like I wouldn't admit oh, I love the kardashians, you know.
Speaker 2:If you don't like them, then fuck off I mean, listen, I'm not gonna lie, like it's a guilty pleasure of mine and I don't ever tell anybody. But then I'm like why, why am I hiding this kardashian obsession, like I think it's just like I get judged by so many of my friends who are like very highbrow, like very intellectual, like you can. They're just like, oh, who watches that shit? Who I like, their family, like I kind of do they're relatable, like I love their family well, not anymore, but they were relatable well, what?
Speaker 1:what do you mean? Like too much plastic surgery now?
Speaker 2:well that and too much. I feel like society's a little fucked up because they're showing like this is a standard of beauty, like you can look like a nine out of ten if you inject your lips and if you get fillers.
Speaker 1:I get what you're saying For me. It actually makes me feel more confident because you can look at their before and after pictures and I know that I am like just a normal girl, girl, like I don't have to look like that, I just don't have self-esteem issues. But I've worked hard to get here I'm this way for my daughter nice, yeah, I'm not trying to be insecure around her, because I don't want her to ever see me being insecure and then she could potentially be insecure then.
Speaker 2:Well, let me kind of flip the script and play devil's advocate. If you are doing that, what do you have to say to people that might state like, oh well, getting hair extensions and getting Botox is not being secure? You're showing that you should get this to be confident.
Speaker 1:I think that I'm not showing anything for anybody. Anything I do is for myself. If someone wants to use me as a beauty standard, then that's a compliment.
Speaker 2:Cheers to that baby Cheers. I like the sound of that. You are really just always boosting up other women, and including yourself. Like I think you really have to show like you love yourself and your own skin and then, if you want to like, add on those little enhancements, like we all want. Like you know, it's like even with fashion, like, or even like you know myself, like I used a spray tan this weekend because I was doing a shoot and I was like I really feel like like this is going to make me feel super confident Just having that even glow.
Speaker 2:And I'll tell you what it did something to me. It really did.
Speaker 1:I always get a spray tan before a big event.
Speaker 2:I think with women it's a little bit more acceptable than men with the spray tan.
Speaker 1:It makes you lose 10 pounds.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like everything looks a little bit more tighter, chiseled and shadowy.
Speaker 1:You know, if a camera adds 10 pounds, that makes it go away the spray tan.
Speaker 2:Oh, okay. So then you're kind of like balancing it out, yeah, yeah, because I, you know, took some thirst traps and I definitely feel like the spray tan, two days after the spray, that like I just felt like everything was showing a little bit better, like shadowy and this and that, and I don't know. I mean some people might be like, yeah, I've seen better, but I was really happy with you know what one of the viewers said?
Speaker 1:They said that you're a GQ model in the body and a guy next door in the face.
Speaker 2:Oh who's? Oh shit, I'll take it as a compliment. But I also feel like you know this has taken me years to get to this point, because when I was like younger, I was insecure about my sexuality, so I felt like I had to like lean in with like the body and like really work out and show that like I don't give a fuck about what you think or what you make fun of. So I'm going to just like show it off. And now it's kind of become this like norm for me, because you know you're going to give people what the people want.
Speaker 1:Can we talk about your hair?
Speaker 2:What's going on with it?
Speaker 1:I love it. It's like a phenomenon, phenomenon, phenomenon.
Speaker 2:Phenomenon.
Speaker 1:You did it. You corrected me for once.
Speaker 2:Normally I'm the one helping you.
Speaker 1:That is impressive. Okay, so when you travel, tell me if you always have this experience too. You travel, you go to a new city, a new place, you use the tap water there to wash your hair, and your hair always turns out more voluminous and better when you travel.
Speaker 2:And you go somewhere else. I don't know what the deal is.
Speaker 1:Is it the water? Or is it just like? Are we less greasy because you get dried out in the airplane? Like what do you think it is?
Speaker 2:I think, truthfully, it is just maybe making more of an effort for me personally, because I'm like, ok, I got to come with a dry shampoo If I'm going to travel, like I don't want to be like screwed without it, or like have the hair dryer on deck, or even just like have the right products, but like normal day-to-day, I might not do that because I'm just like getting lazy okay, I mean maybe, I don't know.
Speaker 1:I think for me it's the tap water I think it's the tap water, just like you know how, when you switch up your shampoos sometimes, it can do something to your hair. It kind of just like revamps it where if you use the same thing every day, you can start getting flat and yeah, I don't know build up or something. So I I don't know. I think it's the switching up the tap water.
Speaker 2:That might be a theory using a different shampoo at the hotel.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2:No, you're right, because like we get kind of bored you doing the same old thing. I think that's a good point, yeah, because I do switch it up whenever I'm traveling. But I think in some weird way, like this fucking humidity can't like put any product in it, because it's just gonna kind of like drip out like I was melting and I was sweaty and I just don't want to get that stuff in my face yeah, you don't want the product getting on your skin and then you'll break out.
Speaker 1:Tell me about your crazy weekend in New York City.
Speaker 2:Where do I start? I got arrived in a Mercedes Sprinter van. I was going to take the flight and then I realized, you know what? This Sprinter van is going to get me there at the right time, and then I don't have to take a car to the airport, to and from, because that adds up, that adds time onto your commute time and then even security and waiting at the airport and I'm like this car service, this Mercedes Sprinter van. It was with other people as well. It was only like $59.
Speaker 1:Oh wow, One way so it took me there.
Speaker 2:I mean, they were pretty fast. And then I arrived to New York, went straight to my friends in Soho, we had a nice little dinner and the morning after I had saw somebody at the coffee shop and I'm like, hmm, who could it be? He kind of gave me these eyes and I was like, hmm, I'm going to pull up my little app, you know. Oh, okay, I'm going to see what's going on.
Speaker 1:So what app is this? What app is it it's?
Speaker 2:Grind, it's Grindr.
Speaker 1:Grindr.
Speaker 2:Yes, is grind, it's grinder, grinder, yes, okay, yes, yes, and can you explain that to the straight people? Okay, so grinder is a gay hookup app and, um, yeah, like I fucking didn't know anything about it whenever I was in college, but then, like everybody, like I guess, utilized it to be like, okay, like you know, where are the gays in the area?
Speaker 1:like is this hookup like sexual hookup or just hooking like linking up like this isn't a dating app, I think it's mainly used for hooking up like just a physical, like altercation, but I do feel like it could be.
Speaker 2:Does that the right terminology, altercation?
Speaker 1:I feel like altercation is a bad thing, but um it's just like a physical hookup it's just for fun, just for playing reindeer games, okay, and um, what did I?
Speaker 2:oh, yeah, so I pulled it up. I saw this guy at the coffee shop at and I'm like wow, okay, he's right here. Then messaged him. We kind of connected. He's um, you know from europe, but bought an apartment in um downtown. We'll say in downtown.
Speaker 1:Okay, we'll say like in the village okay, and did you go downtown that night?
Speaker 2:yes, oh my god, it was so much fun. I mean like hot, hot, hot, and it was just like one of those things that you're just like you know you're having like a little bit of a dry spell because you're just like I remember talking on like a couple episodes ago, like you know, I got that crazy notification that was like, oh my god, like you have an alert, like alert your partner, like you gotta go get checked. So I was like very like scared after that and then I'm like in new york it's hot, like the summer, it's heating up. You get these eyes linked up at the coffee shop. I'm like bloop Pull up grinder, found them, doot, doot, doot, doot, doot. Text, moving on and meeting up at the apartment and I'll tell you what Hot.
Speaker 1:Fucking hot.
Speaker 2:You know what? I think it's already addressed in the initial like messaging.
Speaker 1:So you know what You're right, you can tell if someone has those vibes.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Like I don't think I've ever really so then you just don't follow through. No, yeah, you either ghost them or you just are like I'm trying to get better about being like just with anybody, like just saying like like hey, it's just not for me no, thank you.
Speaker 1:Yeah, instead of ghosting, just being more straightforward ghosting is just not very nice.
Speaker 2:I don't think I would want to be ghosted, but I have been ghosted and then you're just kind of like I get it, like even like my friend this weekend love him, he is one of those people that is just like a magical person like is like one of my biggest fans and I'm a biggest fan of him, and he is always fucking late. He's always running on like late, late, late, late, late. But I love it because I'm like I get it, I can get more stuff done. I don't mind like, I'm not like waiting around being like, hey, you said 3, 30, it ended up being like 5 30. But then I was like hey, got like you know, some beard trimming. I went to the wine shop, I explored the neighborhood, got some pierogies in green point. It was such a fun like time that I'm like always thinking about people being like super late or ghosting and I'm like, hey, I do that. So I don't mind if you do it right, okay.
Speaker 1:So you got there. You had a hot hookup.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:Did anything top that.
Speaker 2:I mean, I guess, like the concert was amazing in the Hamptons, the job that I was on, I can't really discuss it. The concert. Oh yeah, the concert was Kygo. Parson James, who was my friend, and then Sophie Tucker. Oh my God, I am obsessed and I have always heard this stuff. Sophie Tucker, it is like summer in New York and then it's like that one, that's like the purple cheetah hat.
Speaker 1:Purple hat. I have no idea what you're talking about. You don't know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 2:I've been like listening to Sophie Tucker. So Tucker is like it's amazing.
Speaker 1:There's my phone again, sorry, yeah, what the hell. Every time without fail, I forget to.
Speaker 2:We get invited to the after party from one of the DJs. Oh yeah, this is Stole the show. So that's Parson James. Yeah, and I wanted to meet up with him and unfortunately, you know, when people have those dogs, you got to make sure that you got to take the dog out. So, yeah, we didn't end up going to, like you know, the after party because we had to go back to the city and make sure, because there was no dog sitter.
Speaker 1:For a fun after party.
Speaker 2:it's like but then would you have left them for 16 hours.
Speaker 1:Um, I've maybe done that.
Speaker 2:No, maybe did it one time when I lived in mississippi and I drove to norraleans for the day but I, yeah, I mean they have a really good life every other moment, and I just didn't really like every other moment, this friend, I could tell that I was like annoying them because, like kind of being my total, unapologetically authentic self, and I think I was just like annoying them because, like kind of being my total unapologetically authentic self and I think I was just like annoying them, because they were like hyper fixated on like correcting me on like certain things and like we were just not like seeing eye to eye.
Speaker 1:Oh a, I cannot do a corrector, so let's rate this experience then so what like? Like we talked about in the last episode we're gonna rate to rate experiences from a 1 to 10. How much fun did you have with this person? I?
Speaker 2:will say you know, overall it was definitely like an 8.5.
Speaker 1:Oh, that's really high.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the only thing is like it could have been, you know a 10.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I think it was just like, oh my God, like I don't know if I'm just being like super sensitive, or I just like, oh my god, like I don't know if I'm just being like super sensitive, or I think it's like usually we have like a group of us so like there is no like correcting being involved because, like you know, I'm a mess, this person's a mess, that person's a mess. She's just kind of the mom of the group, like like lover, she takes care of us, she's organized, she's like on time, she does all the things and like, but like you know how that goes. But you're right, like you know, and I like I don't think anything needs to be perfect because I do think, like you know, the rating thing. I was thinking of what you were saying and I'm like I'm having a little bit of a low point, but I think it was because I'm in the city.
Speaker 2:Two of my exes are there now. Listen, new listen. New York is 8 million people, over 8 million people, and everybody's got exes. I just happen to have two of them living in the same city and they're both like five-year relationships and I was just like it was in my head. I'm like, oh my God, I don't want to see either of them. But then I was like, oh my God, like I feel like I should because, like you know, I kind of miss them. But then I'm like I always get like emotional whenever I see them, because it's like it relives a little bit of, like it opens up the trauma back in the day and I don't want to sound like a little bitch, like, oh, it was so dramatic, the breakup was so dramatic.
Speaker 2:It's like it's a breakup, that's how it's supposed to be. I think it's just like you know how you miss somebody, you want to see them, but then you're like, as we get older, responsible, be smart, enjoy your time. You have limited time in new york, you're working and then you're playing so like don't relive or open up pandora's box of trauma I think I'm like really insensitive because I just feel like just see them have any trauma, like it's like yeah, I'm over it.
Speaker 1:I'm over really insensitive because I just feel like, just see them have any trauma, like it's like, yeah, I'm over it, I'm over you. Love to see you, though, like I would have just seen them yeah, but that's just me, okay, okay.
Speaker 2:So maybe maybe it's because you're in like a really secure marriage place that you're like my husband would probably be happy to see like some of my exes he'd be like happy to see them because they knew each other get to that level. I want to get to that point. I guess it. I don't know. Maybe it's just like, maybe it's a different personality trait I think it is yeah, yeah, so you don't mind. I think it's like that's the part of me, that's like I want to get to your point, like level I don't.
Speaker 1:I've been called like cold and like no heart. So I don't know that you want to be on my level. I really do have a big heart.
Speaker 2:I just can like compartmentalize or shut off that emotion. I can just shut it off, it's no big deal. It's not hard for me to do that.
Speaker 1:Okay, whether I'm actually dealing with things or not. Maybe you're dealing with things in a healthy way and I'm not. I really don't know.
Speaker 2:See, in the past I would always make time to see these people and when I say these people like an ex or maybe an old friend, that we just kind of lost touch.
Speaker 2:But then I realized, when your time is limited and whenever I'm going through like this emotional state of like somebody like emailing me and like the ex is like trying to like reach out and like have conversations, I'm like no, no, no, no, no. I still need my space, I still need to keep that boundary intact and even with the friends from like la that were my party friends back in the day, like that is kind of like a trigger. I had a conversation with one of my party friends from back in the day that we would just like go to boozy brunches, go to the beach, you know like have margaritas. I said to him, I called him, I like I just want you to know I've been a really shitty friend, not responding and not, like you know, calling you back and just. I think I'm just going through a new phase in my life that I'm trying to protect myself and not like open up that trigger of being like oh, I want to grab like a margarita or something because I'm thinking of you.
Speaker 1:What other crazy shit did you do, Ryan? Okay, we went to a rooftop DJ party with the DJ who is actually a surgeon.
Speaker 2:He's got a little DJ on the side. It was a lot of fun so he's a surgeon and a DJ.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's kind of crazy. That's an interesting combo.
Speaker 2:I think there's a lot of DJs out there that have day jobs.
Speaker 1:Well, I would think like a surgeon doesn't get much sleep, and neither does a DJ, so when does he?
Speaker 2:sleep. No, they don't need to sleep. Pride in New York is this coming weekend and so they wanted to like, have like, a pre-pride party, rooftop Sunday fun day. You know it was a beautiful setting. You saw the skyline, you're on like the 40th floor. It was so much fun. And then, you know, ended up continuing the night going out to a club and, oh my God, you would have been so proud I was twerking, I was on the stage, I was like you know, shirt off, underwear out, like something that you would be very proud I'm so proud.
Speaker 1:I'm a very proud mama right now.
Speaker 2:I mean I definitely look like a fool, but I would get the party started. I mean, who knows?
Speaker 1:when do you not do that?
Speaker 2:I mean, that's kind of the serious question.
Speaker 1:Yeah, serious question when do you not do that? I know, at the pride parade people were asking me like, hey, like for pittsburgh, the pittsburgh pride yeah people were coming up to me and asking like hey, what is he on? Like because they wanted some and I was like uh, life, life, like serious. They were like I'm like he is not on anything. Yeah, like it's how you are.
Speaker 2:I know you understand, you've known me for 20 years it's. I don't really need the alcohol or the drugs to really like step out of my comfort zone and be a little bit of a party. Wild party, wild man. Is that what I'm going for, um?
Speaker 2:sure I mean, I'll tell you what. And the dance floor, slash stage last night. They were like I was sweating profusely because I was just like working, twerking, moving, you know, grooving, and they were just like what the hell are you on? What is he on? Like same thing. And I was like this is just how it is Like when I feel the music, when I feel the beat and I'm feeling myself.
Speaker 1:Hey, I can do it too.
Speaker 2:I remember at Daybreaker.
Speaker 1:There was a whole non-alcoholic club scene. You and I were just going crazy on the dance floor. I was that the first time that you ever like raged on the dance floor without booze in a long time like obviously when I was younger, like I didn't, I wasn't really an underage drinker, I didn't no, no, you weren't bad like me. No, I was not bad like you, so I I've done it before, but like, alcohol makes it easier and I'm not saying that.
Speaker 2:That's the answer but.
Speaker 2:No, and like we talked about this in the car, like I think for people that like want to step out of their comfort zone and they can have like two drinks and they have the moderation and that limit in tech I think it could be, you know, I think that's great, I feel like that's. It's fun to let loose if you have moderation and if you're like maybe more of a shy reserve person, typically you get a little bit of wine, a little bit of like tequila or whatever it may be, a couple beers. That's great. I think for people like me that are like extreme, like wild, extrovert yeah, actor types, they probably should. There's a lot of people in la and hollywood that have to like just completely distance themselves from the alcohol and the whatever, the drugs, the weed and all that because they're so wild as it is naturally that it can just like spiral or it could just like they don't have moderation or they're way too crazy.
Speaker 2:Like you know, we need to calm down, like some people were like. I think he needs a tranquilizer when I'm like a little bit too like wound up, like remember you said that when I visited you in mississippi and I had all that cold brew coffee.
Speaker 1:You were like shut the fuck up. You chugged like a half gallon of cold brew coffee. It was really concerning and you were like well, you just shut the fuck up.
Speaker 2:You're talking like a mile a minute.
Speaker 1:You gave me a headache.
Speaker 2:I love this. You are not shamed by saying the truth. You will be honest with me, Kelly. That's a true friend here.
Speaker 1:I mean seriously you were like. I was like, ah, my brain's going to explode. Like, how are you not exploding?
Speaker 2:See, this is probably what my friend in New York this weekend was feeling.
Speaker 1:I probably was talking her ear off you do do that, yeah, which I normally love it. I'm normally like give me more, tell me more.
Speaker 2:But I think, if you have too much, coffee.
Speaker 1:It gets a little out of control sometimes.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so I'm probably better a little bit on the more tired side, because then I'm more subdued.
Speaker 1:Yes, better a little bit on the more tired side, because then I'm more subdued. Yes, I think what actually drives me the craziest about you lately is I don't know when you started doing this, maybe a couple weeks ago. You, if I don't respond back to you immediately, you go, you know, and then I have to go, yeah, yeah, like I'm just listening, and then you just, you want like an immediate response. So so you just go, you know.
Speaker 2:I hate that about myself. I do that and I just I catch myself, even whenever we're watching the footage back of the pod and I'm like stop, like, stop putting in the filler, let her just like. You don't even need to signal, like you heard me like that's it, like maybe it's just like uh, it's, it's a nervous tick it's kind of funny, so I just had to bring that up it's a nervous tick also, like do you feel like my likes are just out of control?
Speaker 1:They are, but it's the, you know, that's bothering me the most with you it's like it's a little annoying.
Speaker 2:Okay, well, that's good To know. I'm working on it. I mean Not just for you, because I gotta do it for myself. I don't like to sound Like that. I don't like to sound Like I have to use like right.
Speaker 1:You can use the word like for that sentence.
Speaker 2:yes, I do not want to repeat phrases such as you know at the end of each statement. That's what I'm trying to shoot for.
Speaker 1:Well, and now you started doing when you started doing it when you started doing it. Now I'm doing it to Ryan, my husband, and now he's doing it to me. So now I can't escape it. It's like a viral infection.
Speaker 2:I'm sorry, I'm really sorry. Okay, I'm going to work on it and you know what. That's not what my intention was. I mean, I don't think you really do anything. That bothers me oh, you wait. Okay, you'll have something soon, okay, well, I I think maybe I started to do what you did when somebody such as the friend of me were kind of butting heads such as you sound like um one of those beauty pageant people such as yeah, is that what they say, the beauty pageant people there's a really funny clip um of a beauty pageant girl and she just keeps using like such as oh gosh, such as now.
Speaker 2:I'm gonna start that one. Um, you know me, I can't like. You know, that's like not a good one. That's pretty bad no, how do? You like your, your beach house I like it.
Speaker 1:You know what I really have been wanting to go to the beach, so I know this is my little taste of the beach this year we're gonna plan a beach thing.
Speaker 2:I think we just, you know, marine state park is nice, it's cute I want the ocean.
Speaker 1:You want the ocean. I want the ocean. You like the riding the waves right I don't really go in, I just like getting my toes in and I like walking on the beach and I like the salt water, like getting on my skin it feels good it's healing, like if you have acne, or like it heals your skin. It gives you the best hair.
Speaker 2:The beach hair. The beach is everything. The salt water yeah it doesn't smell always the best, but it definitely looks voluminous.
Speaker 1:You definitely want to go to like I like the smell of the ocean. You don't mind the salt water, okay, I like it and maybe you're going to one of the polluted beaches like brighton beach in new york or coney island, or even like jacob reese. Or maybe I gotta go out east like, further out like yeah, hamptons, but this is, I mean, the first time in like 10 years that we haven't lived, that me and my family haven't lived next to a beach that is kind of weird.
Speaker 2:You're landlocked now. That's why a lot of people, as much as they might like pittsburgh as a town, it does feel too landlocked. It does to people that like the coast, like the beach being close, like even an hour, is really nothing Like say, like you're in Philly. You can drive to the Jersey Shore pretty quickly.
Speaker 1:I feel like I need to be a snowbird, yeah. And have a place near the beach for like when the winter happens when you get the winter blues. But now you, you know, got the kids eventually, that's what you're gonna stride for and I actually have some tips how to cut back on your drinking from a drinker, so you're a drinker yeah I'm not gonna tell you how to cut back when I'm not a drinker so get, get excited to get into bed.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like, for me it's a good book or like a new exercise that I'm doing, like walking or something a new exercise routine that I'm doing, yes, so I'm excited to get into bed and read that book and I'm excited to get my rest so I can get up and go, like on my walk.
Speaker 2:Yeah, have an early morning.
Speaker 1:Yeah, track your calories.
Speaker 2:I like that.
Speaker 1:You'll see that like if you drink, you're going to go over your calories most likely Make early morning plans.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so then you have to be accountable.
Speaker 1:Right, you got to be there, right, and then surround yourself with people that you want to be like, so you know, with people that you want to be like, so you know, I obviously don't want to be like. I know, you know, I don't want to be like all these, like crazy drinkers.
Speaker 2:That are drinking every day, so I'm not going to surround myself.
Speaker 1:With people like that. I'm going to surround myself with people who drink less right um, and then just like a new hobby would be good. So, keeping yourself busier. And not getting bored.
Speaker 2:That is a good point, like a new hobby to distract yourself from. You know, because I think a lot of times, like I talked about in New York days, the hobby was partying and drinking and brunching, and so when I went there this weekend as much as I don't have as many crazy stories for you we had an amazing mocktail lineup, my friend, she had the best situation, like spiced mango mocktail, she put the muddled mint in it. She, she had it ready. She had the non-alcoholic rose bubbles are you yawning again?
Speaker 2:oh, my god, I'm boring you with these mocktails. Okay, let's get back to the messy. The messy, the messy, the messy okay, I mean the messy will be the one time that I was in new york I went to I was married at the time and I went to like go out to the restaurant that I had a job at, like a side job. It's called taverna de bacco, and I met a lot of fun people in the neighborhood. It was two blocks from my apartment what does that mean?
Speaker 1:um tavern?
Speaker 2:of what does taverna in italian? It's italian restaurant, shout out to marizio, I don't. So it's just, it's I, I don't know. What does bako? What does bako mean in italian? It's thinking, I can't figure it.
Speaker 1:You know what?
Speaker 2:So the messy story is We'll insert what that means here.
Speaker 1:Yes, we're going to insert what it means.
Speaker 2:The messy story is I went to the Italian restaurant the night that I wasn't working because I was, you know, working as an engineer. And like I didn't work at this italian restaurant every night, it was like maybe a friday or saturday and um, this one girl that was a regular, she went to nyu really pretty girl. We got a little messy. We had a lot of wine. I think the owner was there and he was having a sample of the new wines and you know he's very generous when he's intoxicated.
Speaker 1:But when he's not intoxicated, as most people can be.
Speaker 2:Yes, yes, and he's also kind of a little bit scary Italian, like when he's not intoxicated.
Speaker 1:Those.
Speaker 2:Italians have a temper sometimes. Uh-huh, he did, and that was like the straw that broke the camel's back as I digress, it's just too much. He was freaking me out. It was like if any little thing went wrong, he would just snap on you.
Speaker 1:And I'm like dude.
Speaker 2:I don't know what's going on. You clearly are stressing out about the family.
Speaker 1:I know the type.
Speaker 2:Yes, you've been around those type of guys and it's not just Italian, it's any. Let's be honest, it's any, like anybody. I don't even want to categorize it and say like male, any unstable person. Yes, we all know those types. But at the end of the day I the nyu girl home to my apartment and she was like who is this? And there was somebody sleeping on the couch.
Speaker 2:It was my mother-in-law oh my gosh she didn't know I was married and then my ex married came out of the bedroom was like what the fuck's going on? And like, literally the girl was like freaking out. She was like what the fuck's going on and like, literally the girl was like freaking out. She's like what the fuck she's crying. She's like you brought me home and you're married, like you're like what's like a man she seriously started crying yes, I think, because we were so intoxicated like I don't know, like I don't think it was like.
Speaker 2:I think it was just like, also too like I think we might have made out at the bar. Oh, shit the restaurant yeah, and so yeah it was just like kind of like I mean a lot of messy stories from that place because, like one of my best friends, who god rest his soul, rip john camuto, he would go there. He was a regular he did pass he. He passed in December of 2021.
Speaker 1:Oh my gosh, I'm so sorry.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it was really hard, I think, because I didn't really get to see him for that because it was during COVID. And anyways, make a long story short, he was just such a fun, like we went out all the time and like I remember he brought over like every girl that he was dating was blonde and they all kind of looked like you, oh he would have loved me.
Speaker 2:Yeah he would have loved you and even like my girlfriend katie was dating him towards the end during covid and like it was just so crazy, it would be like he purposefully, like literally, was dating like multiple long-haired girls that looked all the same at the one time at the same time, and this is like typical fuck boy new york like my goodness, if they all look the same, just pick one I know, but he wanted like I.
Speaker 2:I think it's kind of like the kid that, like you know, just wants, like he can't say no, or he, you know, when you're just like, hey, like, because whenever you don't have a traditional job, like a nine to five, you're like available to party every night of the week and new york is, like you know, your playground.
Speaker 2:So I was over his apartment and he like brought, invited them all at different times, like nine o'clock the one, and then, like as the one's leaving, at like 11, like he's inviting the other one, and so then they saw each other in the elevator and they're like the hell's going on. And so then he keeps inviting them over as the night goes on and then they start to like pile up in the apartment. I'm talking like there were like three blondes at the same time and they were just like so wait, how long have you known him? And then the other one was like wait, so are you guys dating? And I'm like, why would you invite all of them? It was like, it was like a cry for help, it's like wait.
Speaker 1:Do you have a yeast infection?
Speaker 2:because now I have a yeast infection. Is it from you or you? I was like this is really, like it's a cry for help, like why would you do that? But then I was also thinking like is he's just like intoxicated and he's not thinking right? But like I was just like I don't know.
Speaker 2:He thought they were all the same girl no, like if he was like yeah, can you imagine? But yeah, it seemed like we were just always every night ordering from remedies diner, mozzarella cheese, sticks, fries, rose tequila I can't do those mozzarella cheese sticks anymore.
Speaker 1:I I got so excited one time that I I bit one off and I was eating it and um, it was like from a local dive bar it was from tilts actually, I don't know if you remember oh my god, you're so trash I know so I'm trash, so I'm eating complete mozzarella stick and I was so hungry that I didn't really chew it, so I swallowed it, but it was still like attached yes and so like it went down my throat and it was like it was like a string.
Speaker 1:I was gagging did you pull it out? I had to pull it, but it was still like attached and so like it went down my throat and it was like it was like a string.
Speaker 2:I was gagging. Did you pull it out I?
Speaker 1:had to pull it out. I was gagging.
Speaker 2:I was like choking to death.
Speaker 1:I couldn't breathe and I had to pull it out of my throat and it was like it was like 8 or 9 inches long. It just like I probably pulled it out of my stomach.
Speaker 2:I can totally see that, because sometimes that mozzarella will not pull apart.
Speaker 1:It didn't pull apart and I just swallowed it too fast, so I don't do mozzarella sticks anymore.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Something about them. It just feels like that is so really greasy and fried. I don't know.
Speaker 1:You love cheese, I always think of cheese as really unhealthy.
Speaker 2:It isn't the Like you love cheese, I always think of cheese as like really unhealthy.
Speaker 1:It isn't the best for you. I mean, it is what people are like oh, it has calcium. It's not the best for you, oh, bullshit.
Speaker 2:I don't think this calcium thing is going to do any good.
Speaker 1:Well, you know what? Broccoli has calcium in it.
Speaker 2:Well, that's what I'm saying. So you can get more calcium from broccoli than you can from dairy, which people don't realize.
Speaker 1:Yeah because you know, let's be honest, broccoli is not as tasty as cheese?
Speaker 2:absolutely not. Yeah, now, this vegan cheese they're talking about like has like the same, like it's called micos why call it cheese though? I don't think it's a cheese alternative, alternative and oh, it's vegan cheese. No, it's not fucking cheese you're right, it's a cheese alternative. Okay, they have to correct it.
Speaker 1:Kellis, don't have to get all mad. Don't be calling me kellis, bro you get a little angry kellis comes out.
Speaker 2:Hold me back, kellis comes out this is like the other gemini, the twin flame, the crazy one crazy tonight do you think that tonight is the night to get a little wild?
Speaker 1:oh, I got wild last night what did you do?
Speaker 2:tell me the messy oh, give me the lowdown on the messy, I can't uh, you, okay, so you expect me to be an open book, but then you have boundaries and you have limits, because you're a mother.
Speaker 1:I do have boundaries. You're a mommy. You know what? I just got a little crazy with my hobby. That's all. I'm going to spare you the details, though.
Speaker 2:That sounds fun. Yeah, something about like getting messy with the character in New York that I met. They had, they, you know, they bought their flat and it's like that's kind of cool. And then, on top of it, I was just like, wow, you know, when the sex is good, like that's, when you're like, okay, definitely gonna have, like you know, a next new york trip, and have to, you know, put that person on the vip list.
Speaker 2:You know, you know you know, you know, you know, god correct a brother, keep me in check just like you did, you feel me I'm gonna start saying you feel me?
Speaker 1:oh, that's gonna get annoying real quick, but go ahead and start.
Speaker 2:I'll let you know when I'm sick of it uh, but I do think that I need to start reading a new book, because that is my hobby. I've been reading too yeah which, what do you think? Self-help, should it be, like you know, a non-fiction?
Speaker 1:self-help, but sometime a non, sometimes a non-fiction is interesting interesting and necessary just for excitement and entertainment. Sometimes you gotta take a pause on the self-help excitement and entertainment.
Speaker 2:Sometimes you gotta take a pause on the self-help. So you know, non-fiction is not like fictional yeah, okay, well, you said, like, sometimes, like a non-fiction is exciting and, like you know, take a pause from like non-fiction isn't really exciting, is it? Yeah I think you were just getting them confused, like you thought fiction was fiction is not real yeah, that would be more of an. I described that as excitement, right, not like a non-fiction you just said non-fiction.
Speaker 1:You know what I did get it confused. Yeah, and I'm not trying to be mean or shady no, thank you yeah because I'm like wait nobody.
Speaker 2:I I mean, unless the non-fiction like book is really that like crazy exciting fiction.
Speaker 1:I've been, I do some fiction ones, yeah like harry potter yeah, not like.
Speaker 2:Oh wait, I have to use like you can?
Speaker 1:yeah, that could be used in the right way I'm like trying to avoid it completely.
Speaker 2:oh my gosh, we are so excited for you to be part of Mocktails Are Messy. We really would love if you could like, comment and share this video with any of your friends or family.
Speaker 1:It will allow us to continue to grow this we are looking for fun guests who are willing to spill the tea. Tell us your messiest stories.
Speaker 2:Yes, we want to hear your messy stories, because our messy stories.
Speaker 1:You could be anywhere in the country.
Speaker 2:Yeah, sometimes I like thought this weekend was going to be messy, but it's just not messy enough for my co-host, kelly.
Speaker 1:Absolutely not. So. If you have a messier story, you text us or call us.
Speaker 2:Your messiest story, because we're running out of messy stories. We're trying to create them on our own, but our number is 424-666-7794.
Speaker 1:424-666-7794. We're not running out of stories. We just have some in the bank for later, because some of them we are not going to share until we hit 10,000 subscribers. Because they might be a little bit too messy I'm not trying to just put it all out there right now.
Speaker 2:Yes, this 20-year friendship, it's just too good. We want to milk every little ounce of our messy past and learn from it. You know we want to stop the cycle, but we also want to laugh about those messy moments and we can redefine what it is to be messy in your 30s and 40s and 50s.
Speaker 1:Absolutely.
Speaker 2:Thank you for listening to.
Speaker 1:Mocktails are.
Speaker 2:Messy this is Ryan Frankofsky, your mocktail man.
Speaker 1:And Kelly Misgorsorski, your cocktail gal.
Speaker 2:I think mocktail man sounds stupid cocktail gal we love you guys ciao, ciao.
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