Mocktails Or Messy
Mocktails Or Messy
#22: Homeownership Hiccups & Author of "Shut the Fuck UP Method"
Could you imagine ordering an Uber for a baby goldfinch? This episode of "Mocktails Or Messy" promises a whirlwind of humor, practical advice, and heartfelt reflections. Ryan FRANKOwski and Kelly Mizgorski kick off Wasted Wednesday by crafting delightful non-alcoholic beverages using Ritual Gin Alternative and Betty Buzz, all while exchanging laughs over their celebrity crushes on Blake Lively and Taylor Swift. From the significance of using headphones for a more intimate podcast experience to the joy of mocktails, this segment blends light-hearted banter with practical tips for a balanced lifestyle.
Navigating the ups and downs of homeownership, pet care, and parenting can be quite the adventure, as we share in our discussion. From the stress of a costly plumbing issue to the joys and challenges of raising kids, we offer honest reflections and a dose of humor. We also touch on societal perceptions of choosing not to have children, providing a candid commentary on these complex topics. Join us as we share a mix of personal anecdotes and thoughtful insights, all wrapped up in a humorous long-term perspective on parenthood.
We are thrilled to welcome Jorge Perez, author of "Shut the Fuck Up Method," who enlightens us on managing stress through meditation and avoiding negative talk. Jorge's wisdom on maintaining calm and positivity is both inspiring and practical. As we explore themes of personal development, honesty in communication, and setting boundaries, we share stories of self-growth, comedy, and reflection. Tune in for an episode that seamlessly blends light-hearted humor with meaningful conversations, offering plenty of laughs and wisdom along the way.
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I really like it because intimate oh okay, I was like taking him seriously.
Speaker 2:Author of Shut the Fuck Up Method.
Speaker 3:Do that funny again, and that was okay.
Speaker 1:Knock on the door and the dog turfs the baby. Okay, we did it.
Speaker 2:This is Ryan Frankofsky, and.
Speaker 1:Kelly Msgorski. You're listening to? Mocktails are Messy. What day is it today?
Speaker 2:It is Wasted Wednesday. Are you ready, Kelly? My God, your ring is going off on your door at home.
Speaker 1:Yeah, somebody's at my house, I'm going to turn that off?
Speaker 2:Yeah, you always got that phone, just chirping.
Speaker 1:That's what happens when you're as popular as I am.
Speaker 2:So today our mocktail is the Ritual Gin Alternative with Betty.
Speaker 1:Buzz, let's get buzzed. Blake Lively's right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, my girl. You know I'm a big crush on Blake since day one.
Speaker 1:So what's perfect is it's non-alcoholic.
Speaker 2:Yes, it is baby and.
Speaker 1:Blake doesn't drink, so you don't drink, but I do.
Speaker 2:Like Ryan Reynolds, her hubby.
Speaker 1:Or Taylor Swift.
Speaker 2:Oh, swifty, her BFF, that's right.
Speaker 1:So we've got the non-drinker friend, your Blake, and then the drinker friend.
Speaker 2:I'm Taylor, the non-drinker friend, you're blake. And then the drinker friend, I'm taylor. Absolutely, I like it, taylor and blake. Why are you so much taller than me? Like? Am I just like sloucher? I don't know. Should I lower? No, I'm not gonna lower this. No, no, you definitely are always put on a pedestal, ain't? That the truth so let's open these up, let's pop. You got the bottle opener there, do you mind popping that. Puss Ooh pop that putty, pop that putty Kelly.
Speaker 1:Ooh, I like the sound. Oh, my God. Okay, so what I like is there's like sediment in it. It has actual like lemon and lime juice.
Speaker 2:Look at you, Betty Buzz. You look like you're totally Betty.
Speaker 1:Oh, I'm not a Betty, no, no. Not with those pigtails. Girl, I'm not a Betty Bob, betty Boop.
Speaker 2:You look really cute today with the pigs.
Speaker 1:Thank you. It kind of like worked out with the headphones.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah. This is the first time that we've done the headphones. I've been wanting to, I've been pushing you to do it, I've been pushing you to do it, and you know why?
Speaker 1:I don't know why. I think you thought it would just like look cool or something. So tell me, tell me why.
Speaker 2:No, baby girl, it's because you can understand and hear and edit and like alter your voice, because sometimes you'll be like whispering, like real little, but just like really quiet, and then I'm like in the background like.
Speaker 1:You know what I like about it is, it is really like intimate I really like it because I love asmr oh, asmr stands for what? Oh gosh, I don't even know. Now I feel dumb.
Speaker 2:Oh my god, I feel dumb too.
Speaker 1:Hi there Puddin'.
Speaker 2:Pop. Hey Puddin'. How are you? Tonight I'm doing really well.
Speaker 1:Okay, do you mind making this? Let's get some Betty Buzz in here. Let's do this.
Speaker 2:And I'm going to do Betty Buzz with the ritual.
Speaker 1:And I'm going to do it with the Camerina. You like it, tequila?
Speaker 2:Tequila is your friend, because tequila, apparently, is like the healthiest alcoholic drink.
Speaker 1:That's what I hear.
Speaker 2:Is it because of the agave nectar?
Speaker 1:I will say no, alcohol is healthy.
Speaker 2:But we try our best.
Speaker 1:Like I'm not an A plus student.
Speaker 2:No, there's people that you know are.
Speaker 1:A plus students. They live their life A plus. I'm more of like a C's get degrees. You know are A-plus students. They live their life A-plus. I'm more of like a seize debt get degrees. You know I'm not going to be perfect.
Speaker 2:We're more of the social athletic types, not the brainiac.
Speaker 1:Exactly. I saw this story the other day and I'm obsessed with it. A man who, in quotations, had a few many alcoholic beverages, ordered an Uber for a baby goldfinch that he found struggling on the ground. The baby bird was the sole passenger on the ride to a wildlife rehab. What I'm so confused he just like sent this little baby bird to a wildlife rehab.
Speaker 2:I can't understand, like I'm a bit confused.
Speaker 1:If I found a struggling baby animal and I couldn't drive because I had too many drinks, I would totally order it in Uber to a wildlife rehab facility so that I could like survive.
Speaker 2:You're such a good animal lover, such a good person.
Speaker 1:Okay, but you're not an animal person. For anyone who doesn't know, I have three dogs and one cat.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:What are the names of my?
Speaker 2:animals, luger, and then that's all I know.
Speaker 1:So you don't even know the other ones.
Speaker 2:I mean, it's probably something that I've heard Like Phoebe is one of them. No, Mika. No Milo, something that I've heard like phoebe is one of them. No, mika, no milo. No, um, and now I'm just totally out like I can't even think I got. You have the dogs downstairs all the time.
Speaker 1:They're always in like the lower level I know they live outside pretty much because of the baby.
Speaker 2:That's true, hey, and I gotta give you kudos. You do not allow the animals around your babies.
Speaker 1:No, not really.
Speaker 2:You gate the kids in and you let the dogs run out free.
Speaker 1:My four-year-old plays with them, but you know, they're young, they're all young dogs and, yeah, I don't let my baby crawl around next to them because you know it's one knock on the door and the dog turfs the baby.
Speaker 2:Oh God, no, you don't have time for that no what is going on with you?
Speaker 1:you seem like you're a little stressed I'm a little stressed out, so we had like a flooding issue, you know in our basement and now it's turned into a bigger issue where the whole sewer was completely overgrown with roots and now we're getting like eight feet of an outdoor terracotta pipe replaced, and it's just costing a fortune and I yeah, I'm a little stressed this is the home ownership thing that they don't teach you in school about no, I mean, it's exciting to have a home, but not when things just keep going wrong I know and you've had a couple homes like and everything is like, this is our walk in the park.
Speaker 1:Well, this has been the hardest one.
Speaker 2:You would think that this would be the easiest one, because this is going to be like your maybe not your forever home did you ever think it was going to be your forever home?
Speaker 1:oh no, it's like a stepping stone thing is. Is this is more of like a family home? Yeah, it was my husband's grandfather's home and we don't really know how long we'll be there. If we were, if we knew we were moving in like six months, I wouldn't get the pipe replaced, but we don't know how long we're gonna be there and the last thing I need is the sewer backing up into my newly renovated home.
Speaker 2:So no, no, no you do not need that what it is, but because some people are always like oh yeah, totally fine, like everything's good, like just put a smile on, like I think there is something to be said, like yes, it's good to look at. The glass is always half full and I think you are a positive person yeah, but you're totally open and honest about when shit's going wrong.
Speaker 2:You're just like, hey, I'm always keeping it real yes, kind of like what you said about like, even though you have a smart kid, you're not. She's so smart, she's this, that and the other, because we're so over these parents that are always like my little suzy so smart.
Speaker 2:I just don't hang out with those parents I only have a few parent friends they are like the cool, fun moms like nobody's judging them or nobody cares no, and even somebody else that wanted to come on the pod. Remember, they are promoting their baby clothes and they're like, let's just like be open and honest with like motherhood. It's a mess, it's a shit show oh, and 100 is a shit show. Every day is a shit show, quite literally yeah, makes me really want to be a parent you know what it's all gonna be worth it.
Speaker 1:I I get so irritated with people that don't that want to put down parents and I know you're not doing that right now but like my uncle, growing up, would always be like oh, I don't know how you guys do it with all like two kids.
Speaker 2:I'm like it's not that many kids, and then on top of it they. He would be like I'm a dog person, I don't want to have any kids, and it's like, okay, you've said that multiple times like are you like voicing an insecurity because you don't have kids and you secretly wanted them? Then I see the craziness that you have to deal with, but I also see, like such the joy that comes with the craziness right, and you know what everybody's life sucks sometimes, whether you have kids or not.
Speaker 2:So like I'm gonna be jealous when they're taking care of your old ass and I'm just like, oh well, fuck, I guess I'm going in a nursing home so I thought it was so funny.
Speaker 1:Last night you were over, you were talking to my husband yeah, my favorite, second favorite person yeah, so he's like a he's, you know, a marine corps veteran.
Speaker 3:He likes talking about.
Speaker 1:He likes talking about g-u-n's sometimes oh god, and this is a touchy subject I know, that's why I spelled it some people okay, so he was talking about this so by you spelling, it isn't going to give us any issues, right? I don't think so. Okay good. I think, as long as you don't like say it.
Speaker 2:I don't know. I like that. That's like a mom thing. Just spell it out and they won't know.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Nobody knows what I'm talking about right. So he's talking about this Romanian PSL 54. And you thought that he was talking about a Romanian woman holding a PSL like pumpkin spice latte in her hand that is 54 years old and you were so confused I didn't know what it was either, but like the fact that you painted this like Romanian woman, 54, holding the pumpkin spice latte, I just like realized how clueless you were and how clueless probably most people are when it comes to that, and it's just I just thought it was so funny so I just had to share the story I'm like a little embarrassed.
Speaker 2:But then I'm like why should I be embarrassed? I don't know what a, that kind of a romanian psl 54. Yeah, like I'm like psl 54, like is that like 54 pumps and a pumpkin spice latte, like extra, like extreme pumpkin, like I'm really serious, like I had no idea. But then it's like does anybody have any idea? Unless they were in the military, or unless they're like a hunter, or unless they're like this is such a touchy subject right now, even even like with like you know what's going on with the Bidens.
Speaker 1:There's like.
Speaker 2:I mean we don't have to go down that. No, we're not.
Speaker 1:But you know what I'm saying. I do you need to tell me if this is true. It's definitely true when it comes to, like my husband and most men, when you ask a man like two questions in a row, they will totally disregard the first question. They don't even hear it, they forget it, they only answer the second. So if I was like, hey, how is the weather coming in, by the way, what's your favorite color?
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, I think we would think like maybe you didn't care about the first question.
Speaker 2:Oh, so then you just like dismiss that, and then you just answer men are a little bit more I don't want to say simple-minded, we're like a little bit more literal. We just are like okay, wait, let me just like like I was probably like spaced out or dazed and I don't know. I just thought maybe she doesn't care about the first question and so I kind of went in here and out the other. But then the last thing you just said, it's like what's my favorite color? That stood out to me.
Speaker 1:What is your favorite color.
Speaker 2:Olive green. Me too, and you're wearing it today. Check you out.
Speaker 1:Casual mom checking. I didn't know that was your favorite color.
Speaker 2:You didn't know that, my, I didn't know that was your favorite color. You didn't know that my second favorite color is red. Oh wow, you got a little Polish in you. You got red and white, I guess. So I mean red is extreme, like, so like, why red? You like blood, you like Chucky, you like Poland, you like Indonesia, you like like the Confederate, like Russia, like China, what I mean? Mean maybe not the girl, I meant definitely not. Well, like, where does red go?
Speaker 1:like that's extreme girl, I don't know, I'm not thinking about flags, I'm just. I just like the color of red, oh, oh my god, you're so weird.
Speaker 2:I am weird, but you know the reason. I love all of. There's something that I just was always like I don't know what my favorite color is.
Speaker 2:I really didn't have like a perfect, like understanding of like which one, because I like so many you know, like I'm very like rainbow, but, um, I'm kidding, I hate rainbow, but not like hate it, like I hate a strong word, I don't hate it. I just I can't really like get on board with like these bright, bold colors. It's just not my thing. Um, I like monochromatic, I like um, like subdued, like muted colors, so like for me, when I saw this all of speedo at h&m back in the day and it was like a david beckham like brand, like he did collaboration with h&m, and it was an olive speedo and I was like I love speedos and I love olive, like I don't know which one I like better because you know, at the time, like in 2014, like nobody was wearing Speedos.
Speaker 1:Like that's just me. We need to insert an old photo, cause I remember you had like a uh like blue and yellow one too, I swear.
Speaker 2:Oh, yeah, yeah, I started to get really into them because I was just like oh, they're like so European. Like I almost felt like I was so European.
Speaker 1:And you like attention and obviously, when you wear, when you're like in your twenties wearing a Speedo, you're going to get attention.
Speaker 2:Is that a bad thing? To like attention? I think I used to think it was always a bad trait, and so I would always like try to like back it up, back it up and like just pretend like I didn't. And then I started to come more into like who I am and like be more comfortable in my own skin and I'm like fuck it, like this is who I am and like I try to make it positive. I don't want to make it like look at me, look at me, look at me like I have nothing to show yeah so, oh my gosh, I didn't tell you so.
Speaker 1:Just a psa for everyone there. The police had to come and shoot a rabid raccoon in my backyard two days ago.
Speaker 2:A rabid raccoon.
Speaker 1:So animal control was closed because it was past 3.30 pm so they actually couldn't test it. They have to take it right then. And there they came and got the dead body the next day.
Speaker 2:Oh my God, but the damn thing was definitely rabid. I looked up all the signs and symptoms like rabies. Okay, so like it would have been like a. So when you say rabid, I think you're saying rapid or rab rabbit okay, well, okay, a raccoon with rabies yes, like a rabied raccoon. Yeah, so it's called rabid.
Speaker 1:Oh, thank you, I see I, I didn't know, oh my god, slap a blonde wig on that bitch. I really didn't. It's just something to be like mindful of if, if you see a raccoon acting super strange in the middle of the day and like seizing up and foaming at the mouth and making weird noises you need to call somebody.
Speaker 2:And they shot it. They did that's crazy, yeah. So it was in your fenced in backyard and you were afraid that it was going to attack your dogs.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so my dogs actually like alerted me that something was wrong, so I brought them in and then I saw it there.
Speaker 2:It was actually like it didn't come in contact with the dogs thank god I'm like 99 sure okay, because that would be like something to be considering, like your dogs could have been.
Speaker 1:Well, there's no like you know bite wounds on them like I did look, because I guess if your dog does get bit you, do you want to take them in for like a booster rabies shot and then they have to be quarantined for four months or something crazy. But um, I do not believe they came in contact.
Speaker 2:Contact, I'm like 99 sure okay, good, because that scares me just in itself if, like you, found that in your backyard and it's fenced in.
Speaker 1:It's like kind of stuck like I feel like I've had a crazy week I know and I feel like I'm kind of like boring compared to you.
Speaker 2:I love this, betty buzz. Yeah, you like it I?
Speaker 1:did and I I had one like a couple nights ago just to try it out and it's really good with the tequila or without it. It kind of tastes like a skinny margarita with the tequila in it, because it's lemon lime exactly, and you know it's only five grams of sugar per serving. Yeah, how many servings is in a can?
Speaker 2:Let's check it out girl.
Speaker 1:Probably one.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:A serving size one bottle.
Speaker 2:I thought was kind of nuts recently that there is now a surgeon general warning there that Congress is trying to pass to put on social media apps to make people aware this could result in mental health issues. Social media apps.
Speaker 1:I mean there probably should be a warning on it. I think most adults are aware of that but like children aren't aware. Okay, and it's kind of.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but see, I wouldn't even think of that. Like I know that we all talk about it, we are excited to introduce our good friend. George Perez is the author of Shut the Fuck Up Method. Yeah, I'm super excited. We had wanted to get George in person eventually in a month from now, but we just got so excited and you know, talking to George and he's just been like inspiring so many people Like my mom has read the book, the whole thing.
Speaker 1:Is she a big reader?
Speaker 2:She is a big reader. She loves to read self-development, self-help books. You know, anything that can just be like a better version of yourself.
Speaker 1:Educate you in that realm I'm excited to talk to him. So are you ready for george?
Speaker 2:I'm ready, let's do, let's do it oh, my god, it's mr george perez, the author of shut the fuck Up Method. Or wait, can we say fuck, is that a thing? Uh-huh, how are you doing? You look great, you too. Look at this bar. Wow, yeah, we're so happy for you to join us on. Mocktails Are Messy. You really have inspired us to shut the fuck up. Good, you really have what your history is and why you're so connected to this message of shut the fuck up.
Speaker 3:The book was inspired by both my parents. They passed from cancer my dad was in 2019 and my mom was in 2022. And I took a deep dive on epigenetics, which is a study of how we metabolize stress, and after a deep study on it, I really came to the conclusion that it was stress that detonated the cancer in both my parents. So the book is almost like a celebration of their life and it's just really amazing hacks on how we can not spike up our stress levels and have a more, much more peaceful life. It's not. It's not a heavy book, it's a, it's a powerful book, but I do stand up, so I bring a lot of situational, like you know, moments where whether it's like your co-worker or your parents or your mother-in-law, but it really is all about rewiring how we talk so we're not spiking our stress levels and we're not putting ourselves in harm's way.
Speaker 1:You do have a really calm energy about you, thank you.
Speaker 2:Well, George, you were one of the first people that really influenced me to start meditating.
Speaker 3:Yeah, in the book I talk a lot about how in meditation it's the only real way to rewire our subconscious mind so we're not triggered by traffic or somebody cutting you off on the road. So the work is really. It's very deep. It could be very like baby step into, like shut up and don't spike yourself. But the only way my experience that we're going to really be able to achieve that is through meditation and killing that knee jerk reaction to explore.
Speaker 1:I need to read that book.
Speaker 2:I know I think it was just so important for me and my mom to read your book, mom, to read your book. You know we were going through some stuff and I think you even like educated me whenever I was getting into like a little bit of the heavy, like gossiping, like trying to be some like, you know, reprimand, or like you should do this, not that, and it's like no, just calm the fuck down, shut the fuck up and just like be positive, rewire the way that you talk, because, because you know my stress levels were increasing the more, I kind of brought those negative particles as you share in the book.
Speaker 3:Like it is like the law of attraction involved in there you know to the core is like listen, when we observe something, when we observe a behavior like we, you know tim right, and the minute that you say you know tim's an asshole, the minute you call it out you can lock in those particles so that person or that situation has to occur that way. So the question becomes if you knew that calling your boss a nightmare, even though it's getting you a few laughs with your co-workers, is worth the fact that he keeps occurring as a nightmare. Is it worth it? You know you really have to ask yourself those questions. Is the 10 minute banter of making fun of somebody or calling somebody out is worth you having the depletion and bad experience at the end of the day? So we got to start. Just like we have willpower to eat healthy or not, to drink right Like you walk into a bar and you go, but I'm gonna, I'm not, I'm gonna have the virgin pina colada, whatever it is.
Speaker 3:It's the same thing with language that you have to summon your willpower to not talk shit about people. And when you walk into gossiping conversations, I give you hacks, you know? Uh, they shut the fuck up. Commandment number one is if you're gonna talk shit about someone, don't use their name, for example.
Speaker 3:Right and yes we assassinate people's characters by like oh my god, so my friend lisa, whatever, like, don't fucking use their name. And you know another. Another commandment is like if you walk into a gossiping conversation, don't jump in just literally. When your friend is looking for that camaraderie from you, just just say I hear you, you know just literally, I literally hear words coming out of your mouth. You're not agreeing with them. Don't think that you are, but you know that you're not.
Speaker 1:Right. That's good dude, I mean.
Speaker 2:I know my brain just exploded dude.
Speaker 2:I mean, I know my brain just exploded. I mean, like I'll be honest with you, george, when you first told me I loved the cover, when you first told me about you being an author, I'm like, oh my god, this guy, george, you're an author now. I know that you're inspiring. But like, what are you? What else are you getting involved with? But I think, since you have been involved with so many roles, so many industries within the creative field and in real estate and I mean the list goes on and on Can you give us a little background on how you become, like, educated in this message to this day, because you have so many different careers and industries that you have worked in?
Speaker 3:So when I was a nail technician, right, I thought he's just kidding.
Speaker 1:Oh okay, I was like taking him seriously.
Speaker 3:He's a stand-up comedian right no, no, that's just an ongoing joke when people ask me so what's in there? I'm like nail technician I'm now I really need to explore. Um, I think at the end of the day, in my last, you know, let's say, 25 years of a career, of being an agent, right, I've been connecting artists and brands, uh, producing photo shoots in la, but my, you know, behind the scenes passion has always been personal development. You know, when I was 20 years old, I went to ind, india, for a month to an ashram with my mom, and throughout my whole adult life I haven't really had therapy but I've taken all these incredible personal development courses, like years courses I've studied with Tony Robbins, abraham Higgs, byron, katie, dr Joe Dispenza.
Speaker 3:So you know, this book is almost like the combination of years and years of training, a really rigorous training, and I think what was almost like the straw that broke the camel's back for me was studying with Dr Joe Dispenza, which he talks about the science behind the brain and how we can really rewire how we are. But it has to be done through our subconscious mind. I talk about that on the book a lot, um, so, yeah, so the book is is basically the last 20 to 25 years of all these personal development studies that I've had. Dr joe dispensa does these incredible meditation retreats all over the world in which, uh, they're guided meditations in which, you know, people go with cancer, people go with parkinson's, als ms, and some people really get cured. He doesn't cure you, he basically gives you the tools. It's almost like teaching you how to do a great boot camp class. But if you're not um exercising every day, it's not gonna. You know you have to do the work.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like I just love that you kind of stated like we're all going to die someday. You have to kind of remember that life can be either like half full, like the glass, like you can either look at it like that you know cliche, but just reemphasizing that and like learning from your parents, like you know that they had passed away early and I'm so fortunate to have met your mother. She was so inspirational and you kind of made me realize just to gravitate towards these like important figures in our family and in our life and you inspired me to interview my grandparents recently because of that beautiful interview you did with your mother.
Speaker 3:Oh, that's awesome. Yeah, a week before my mom died, I shot a short documentary about her and yeah, it came out amazing, you know, amazing. But yeah, I think, listen, I, as painful as as it is to lose a parent, it is such a powerful reminder of like, okay, you know, keep going. Like everything is temporary, you know. So it sounds kind of weird, but it's the most beautiful yet painful lesson of life, because immediately you get that this thing is not real. It's literally like a simulation video game. So I know it's great to have goals and the five year plan and the boats and the cars and the kids and all that and it's great, but don't forget that this moment is the only real thing that we have. You know, a truck can come and it's over. A random disease can happen in one day, and I think that, not that we need to be morbid about death, but we need to have a healthy relationship with the immortality that we all have. I feel like we're all going to have drinks after this.
Speaker 2:I know, I know we need to have a little happy hour to lighten the mood.
Speaker 1:Gosh, no, everything you said just resonates with me.
Speaker 2:I think it gives us the chills a little bit.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I have the chills right now.
Speaker 2:Everybody loves George. The only haters that like are after George is because they're not happy and they're like why is this guy always fucking happy? They're just like. I want to get to that level, so I think, with your book. And then also like share a little bit about your stand-up comedy. I mean, like we're supposed to be sexy, provocative on, mocktails are messy. We want to hear a little bit of your stand-up or even how you got involved with that yeah, that'd be great.
Speaker 3:My stand-up career it kind of started like six years ago as like a dare you know I I was, I've always been the funny guy in the room and and this woman, mimi, had a theater in la and she was like you know what, why don't I? Uh, she's like you, uh, I dare you to do 10 minutes in my theater in two weeks. And I was like done and I literally went on youtube and I just started watching like how to make jokes. And you know, the whole thing about stand up laughter is two things it's either surprise or relatability.
Speaker 2:Relatability so you're bilingual.
Speaker 3:You laugh because you're like, oh, I know that guy, or I am that guy, you know what I mean. So I just kind of my shtick was always being a Latino and in the differences between American culture and Latino culture and it just, you know, I wrote a bunch of stories and it's funny, you know, until this day my best set was my first set. Oh, and I did like 70 sets and I watched my first set and it was genius and I never was able to be that funny again and that was okay.
Speaker 3:But the first set I mean I even had a story, because the week before I did it I went to mexico. I was dating this guy in mexico and and literally one night we all go out and I get so wasted, I lose everybody. I end up finding my way home you got messy, messy. I end up like perfect for this show. I end up like in his doorstep, like crawled up like a ball.
Speaker 3:And the next day I woke up and I think, because of the stress of being lost, I get a cold sore. I have a cold sore on my lip and I hadn't had a cold sore in years. And we had to go to a wedding, oh my god. And we had to go to a wedding and I was like I can't go to this wedding. He's like no, so. So the whole time you're just like hiding yourself and all these Mexican girls were like and all of a sudden they would see me go, oh my god and I and I and it's funny because I was talking to my friend Jason the night before I did my stand-up show and I was telling him my whole my set.
Speaker 3:And then I go, dude, you're never going to believe, and this wasn't part of my set. I go, you're never going to believe this bro. I was in Mexico last week and I got so wasted in all this and then I got a cold sore and I had to go to this Jewish wedding and he was like, dude, that's your set. He's like you have to talk about that. And I was like no way.
Speaker 3:I'm not gonna he's like no, he's like what do you think Amy Schumer is so funny when she talks about her UTI and all this stuff. And I'm like guys and I, I fucking talked about it and I destroyed it. It looks really, really good. I wish we could throw in the clip. We can.
Speaker 2:We will throw in the clip. Do you have it?
Speaker 3:Yeah, but I have it on like a VHS.
Speaker 1:If you could send it to us, we can throw it in. Listen, don't let George fool you, he's actually 39.
Speaker 2:He might look like he's in his 20s, but he's 39, he's actually 39, he might look like he's in his 20s, but he's 39. Yeah, wow, damn, yeah, yeah. Well, you actually too. I mean like you had a great roast for your birthday, so you clearly don't have any like hard ups on like trying to be like roasted. And also you have a game that you said. It's like a game called shut the fuck up.
Speaker 1:Oh, oh my gosh, I want to play the game.
Speaker 2:Let's hear it, george, are you ready?
Speaker 3:So this game is called to shut the fuck up or to don't? Oh, to don't. So you guys have to guess what my answer is and see if you get it right.
Speaker 3:So your best friend is finally dating somebody, okay these are scenarios right, scenarios super happy because it's been a long, long time for her. In fact, you're ready to throw in the towel, in fact. Um, so you, you finally meet the guy. In a week, after you meet this new guy, you go to a party where you clearly see him, drunk, putting the moves on somebody else, right? So the question is do you shut the fuck up or you don't shut the fuck up?
Speaker 1:I would say don't. What is your answer, ryan?
Speaker 2:I would say shut the fuck up what's the right answer?
Speaker 3:shut the fuck up well, I was like it's in the reasoning. It's. You know what, if she has an agreement with the guy?
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Kelly's like. I don't know about that, but I guess me and you, being, like you know, in LA or have been, oh, I mean you never know.
Speaker 3:She feels like foolish and then you know it, all kind of you, you would tell her right.
Speaker 2:I would, but maybe after reading your book I wouldn't yeah, I think I just have experience with that and like I did learn a good lesson. Like I was like oh god, I should probably tell the girlfriend that I'm friends with, like I don't know if we could say her name. You both, we both know her. But I was just like I can't, I can't go there.
Speaker 3:Yeah Well, there's no right or wrong, it's just whatever you know. Your integrity is so this is fun.
Speaker 1:What is the next one?
Speaker 3:Yes, OK, so you're rich, super wealthy older friend invites you to St Bards in his yacht for New Year's. Okay, there's a group of four of you of course you four are much younger than him and you're standing outside of the bathroom chatting when your wealthy older friend comes out of the bathroom and there's some white powder substance in his nose while he's talking to you all very loudly and aggressively. Do you shut the fuck up or you don't shut the fuck up?
Speaker 2:oh, that is a hard one because I've dealt with that guy. Fuck, I did, I worked with that guy, shit. Oh, I mean, you know what you're on the yacht. You probably should shut the fuck up yeah, I'm gonna second that yeah, you shut up.
Speaker 3:I mean, even though you want to like for that girl.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you want to help and like, or maybe not even because they're too aggressive in that state. Yeah.
Speaker 3:Just let them have his fun.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I feel like you have some of those friends from back in the day, george, and now you're like such a health, not holistic, like you're into the mocktail movement, but you also like dabble with, like being more of a mindful drinker.
Speaker 3:I'm going to be honest with you. So last night I went to this event, this Angeleno event, and I didn't drink last night and it was sponsored by a Rose brand and I got to say it does when people start getting messy and you haven't even had one glass, like it's kind of like it's a lot, I mean. And especially when it's like I was talking to this girl and she was so sweet but she just kept getting more and more messy and I'm, you know, stone sober, I'm having a good time, but she just kept slurring and then she just kept getting more and then she's talking to you closer in your face and now you can smell the rosé and whatever it's weird you numb all these things out when you even have one drink on you you know,
Speaker 2:so when you're like stone sober and everybody's getting so messy, yeah well yeah, I mean, you're so right and you took me to a mocktail event at the bungalow. I think there are people that were just like, wow, like we, we can go out and have these fancy mocktails and just have a great time if you're in the space with the fancy garnish. But I want to ask you, george, what's the last messy story of yourself that you can remember? And if you can't, what's the last messy story of me that you remember?
Speaker 2:I've never seen a messy story of you such a gem is this a joke maybe the time that I yelled at you for your dog taking uh number two on my balcony. That was my messiest, that was real and I feel bad. George, you forgave me. He see, this is the thing that I love about george. He was so unfazed by it. He's like oh it's covid, don't worry, he had a bad day yeah, no, I can't say um I think what about you?
Speaker 3:in dallas like a month and a half ago, and I mean I don't know if I got too messy, but the the next day, like there were moments of the night that I usually my only. To be honest, the only thing that I love, that I like to drink, is red wine, and I like red wine with like cheese and charcuterie.
Speaker 3:It's like a whole like top of the Spanish experience. Other than that, not really a fan, you know. Yeah, so if tequila does arrive once in a while then it can get a little messy. I'll do it and it's like, but it's one of those things where I can take it or leave it, you know. It's just it's almost like food. That's the only one that I can't really part with. But wait, I have one more story.
Speaker 2:Yeah, let's do it.
Speaker 3:Your Guatemalan girl cousin moves across the street from you. Just go with it. Yeah, she's eight months pregnant and engaged to a white trust fund kid from Connecticut, and when I say kid they're in their teens. You know, franco, this is more of a gay man scenario. A week after that, he hits you up on grinder. What do you do?
Speaker 2:oh my, gosh, I mean, I do love a trust fun kid. You know what I guess I would? I would shut the fuck up because I don't like to out anyone, including myself.
Speaker 1:I didn't like when people outed me yeah, I'm gonna say shut the fuck up too.
Speaker 3:I don't want to deal with that drama he hit you up on grinders, not like you did anything, because that's that's your cousin's baby, daddy. The question is he popped up on my grinder or not?
Speaker 2:you know what I guess? I just always think I don't like. Even so, like for that, I always like to keep the privacy, like if somebody's on the apps looking for some fun. Usually I'm like hey, like you know, that's probably usually me being that, and I don't want people to be disclosing my info, so I'm gonna shut the fuck up yeah, okay, it's a triple agreement yes yes, we all agreed to that one, even though kelly's like what is this grinder thing? Can you explain?
Speaker 1:to me. Thank you, george, it was so good to meet you. This was really fun. Thank you guys.
Speaker 2:Thank you you got to come visit us. We have a house set up for you on the River Bend. Kelly wants to meet you. George, thank you so much for taking the time to talk about Shut the Fuck Up Method.
Speaker 3:Yeah, no, thank you so much for having me Wait. I love the background. I feel like it's nighttime in New York City.
Speaker 1:Right, I know that's the vibe we're going for. It is a green screen.
Speaker 3:Are you sure you're not on the 87th?
Speaker 2:building in Central Park. It looks like it right.
Speaker 3:It looks real. Wait, I wanted to. I had a question for you, franco. So you're enjoying the book, right? What do you like the most about the book?
Speaker 2:Honestly, I took some notes on here and I still being like involved with like my friends who like to party and like to, like you know, still have fun and like go out and like I'll be the designated driver, but I really can't like put my views on to people that might be like too messy, because I see myself like in them and I want to help them and I just have to say you know what? You can't change anyone. You just have to accept people for who they are and literally like stop talking about it, just get like over it, move on to the next. And I like what you said about like you know talking about like positive self-awareness and don't try to bad mouth and like have that response ready when people are in a group setting of gossiping and just being able to say like I hear you because you're not adding to it, you're just, you know, kind of keeping it like hey, let's move along, let's talk about like what you're working on. Let's talk about like what your goals, aspirations are. Let's talk about your vacation or your trip. Like I about what your goals, aspirations are, let's talk about your vacation or your trip. I don't want to keep going back.
Speaker 2:It can be funny in the moment, and I think I surrounded myself with people that were doing that. And I'm not saying I was a saint either. I mean, kelly knows herself, sometimes we are what we eat. You know, if we are around that energy, we start to behave that way. And we're not blaming anyone else. You know, we take ownership for ourselves, george. But I think your book just like really hit me and my mom at like the perfect moment in time to really just appreciate everything that we have in life and not dwell on the issues.
Speaker 3:That's awesome, that's very well said. Yeah, I my whole thing. It's not repression, it's mindfulness, you know. So, like one of the commandments is like, if you have, you know, a situation that you got to let it out, one person, pick one person and vent and let it out, but that's it like yes, get out of the house of like telling the uber driver, telling your neighbor, telling, telling, because we're not.
Speaker 3:We're almost just like indulging in a, in a fix of a drug and and you're not sorting the situation out, you're just involving more people and now you have to answer. So it's like, let's say, you fix that issue with your friend, but now you told marie and jessica and carlos and now you have to like sort all those conversations out about your issue with your boyfriend. So it's like we we start growing our network of conversations about our issues and then we start being known by the stuff we talk about. So then we get mad at people when they're talking shit about us, but we're the ones that have told everybody our problems. So it's almost like taking a step back and really owning that we are our greatest publicist and we don't have to go around and send press releases about the things that we don't want in our lives.
Speaker 2:That's it. That's it, baby. I remember watching that little TikTok that you just had recently about, like okay, you're not a news reporter for.
Speaker 1:CNN. Yeah, I saw that too Amazing.
Speaker 2:Yeah Well, thank you, George, so much. We are excited to see you in La Di Da land and I hope that you enjoy the beautiful weather in Los.
Speaker 3:Angeles. Thank you so much, guys. Thanks for having me.
Speaker 1:Thank you, George.
Speaker 2:Ciao bello.
Speaker 1:That was so good. George was amazing.
Speaker 2:Learned so much.
Speaker 1:Now I definitely need to read the book.
Speaker 2:Oh, you're going to love it. It's like perfect for us right now.
Speaker 1:Yes, I know, did you want to finish your story?
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, recently, like I was working with somebody and like they were crushing and like. My response is to always be like oh yeah, you too Like just to be polite and nice, and then I get in the cycle of like allowing somebody back in, and then it becomes like a romantic thing, or you know what I mean.
Speaker 2:Or like a friend with benefits. That can kind of be a distraction. So, like what are your tips and advice for me how to respond to? Like a message that somebody says I don't know about you, but I think about you pretty often. I think your body is really sexy and I want to see you again. I want to have fun, I want to be able to take you out. You are such a good time.
Speaker 1:And you don't want to pursue this.
Speaker 2:I mean, it's just like they're attractive and they're nice and they're educated and they have all that going for them. But then, you know, the only other issue is they're older, and that's something that is probably not ideal well, I mean, it works for some people I just need to be in charge. You're not interested.
Speaker 1:Okay, so I mean, I guess I'm not like. I guess I never really know okay, I would just say something along the lines, as you know thanks, babe, really appreciate that. Uh, however, I'm not really looking for anything like that right now. Like you know, if you had fun together, like you know that one time was really fun, but I'm not, you know, longing for more of that and I appreciate your kind words.
Speaker 2:You're an amazing person, but yeah, you know, no, thank you.
Speaker 1:More honest and transparent yeah, I mean and I break the cycle I've like been guilty of that too where you just kind of like lead them on, or maybe you just like, not in like a mean way no, just like you kind of care about their feelings you don't want to hurt them? Yeah, but then it doesn't come off as a compliment, because they end up realizing that you're being phony. So like it's not a good idea to lead somebody on, no, you're right, I mean damn.
Speaker 2:I think I need you to formulate. You're really good about like formulating messages, so I'm going to help you with this babe. Thank you for the advice.
Speaker 1:Thank you for listening to. Mocktails are Messy. This is Kelly Mazgorski and Ryan. Frankowski, we will see you next time.
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